Office Drama

By Chloe ShihBusiness Careers

Office Drama episodes

July 30, 2024 I don't feel enough.
Nothing we do feels like enough. It’s easy to look at someone’s accomplishments on paper and think they have it all...but Episode 7 is all about the mental tax that comes with constantly striving for that next accomplishment.
𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️
𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 (⁠ @trykarat ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway
co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances
𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ⁠( @chloeshih ) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/
tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s.
Editor: Jayna Benito
𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸
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𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚
0:00 How to do a *proper* hi five
1:05 life updates - Taiwan, college reunion, writing a life PRD
4:21 Chloe’s course launched… and she has a hater
9:08 Chloe’s act of kindness
11:03 the life of being online
12:01 Eric’s recent acts of kindness
13:52 Eric as a college student
16:17 what is Harvard’s reunion like?
19:45 Chloe not included in networking conversations
24:07 feeling small
29:56 Chloe has *clout*
31:33 Chloe hosted her own Gold House Gala
36:16 the sacrifices of putting “business success” first
38:23 living in scarcity
39:37 wanting to feel heard
41:13 ya hate to see it!
44:09 do you want to change and let go?
45:49 infinite halfway theory
48:22 first impressions of Chloe
50:16 does wanting to change come from insecurity?
52:35 Chloe’s insecurities about being feminine enough
56:56 Eric’s crazy EDC travels
1:01:40 how much Chloe’s course made in sales
1:07:51 reflections
1:10:32 a bonus 🪰
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1 hr 12 min
July 23, 2024 YouTube isn't worth it.
Full-time content or back to tech...what about neither? Chloe has been defining her own path, which along the way has led her to sign a huge contract with a Taiwanese ed-tech company and contemplate launching her own TV show. Similarly, Eric's involvement in both business and content has him going from VC pitch meetings to hanging out in the Sway House with some of the world's biggest influencers. What is that lifestyle like, and is it really worth it?
𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️
𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 (⁠ @trykarat ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway
co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances
𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ⁠( @chloeshih ) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/
tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s.
Editor: Jayna Benito
𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸
∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod
∙ spotify → https://spoti.fi/466BRP3
∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple
∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod
∙ discord → https://discord.com/invite/eKZEx42R
𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚
0:00 uwu and meet buddy
1:23 why was Chloe in Taiwan
3:37 Chloe’s product course!
5:32 why Kevin had to fly to Taiwan
6:51 Chloe’s family reunion
11:06 being a full time creator - is it profitable? Worth it?
13:16 why Chloe doesn’t want to do just tech or content
15:45 what are you gonna do then?
18:30 jUsT sTarT a cOmpAnY
20:55 what Chloe really cares about
26:53 content is too grabby
28:53 it only takes Eric 15 mins to do this??
32:22 what do we call Chloe’s path
33:10 star studded pickleball tournament
36:39 the mentor who changed Chloe’s life
41:23 Chloe and Eric’s takes on how to actually find a mentor
45:13 awkward networking stories
49:32 why you have to be self promotional
51:10 eric’s experience at sway house
52:26 how content complements Eric’s entrepreneurship
59:00 taiwanese slang M3Ⓜ️3️⃣
1:01:21 creators are tired
1:07:14 familial duties - parents, chloe junior
1:11:56 JOMO out
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1 hr 14 min
July 16, 2024 Torn between tech and content.
“Should I leave my 9-5 to do content?” We’ve all had that thought, and Chloe actually made it happen. But is content really as glamorous as it seems? Chloe and Eric dive into the good, the bad, and the ugly of some of today's most enticing career paths: tech, startups, and content.
𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️
𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 (⁠ @trykarat ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway
co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances
𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ⁠( @chloeshih ) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/
tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s.
Editor: Jayna Benito
𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸
∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod
∙ spotify → https://bit.ly/jomo-spotify
∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple
∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod
∙ discord → https://discord.gg/chloeshih
𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚
0:00 sick and tired of it all
2:46 did eric get shadow banned?
4:06 learned helplessness
5:46 chloe spends HOW many hours a week on content?
9:09 chloe has the urge to go back to corporate
1048 is content less fun as a full time creator?
11:51 how to design your life
13:14 how being 30 affects your body
15:35 the three paths - content is a side hoe
17:56 the most interesting people are not online
20:13 PM is NOT a chill job
24:03 what’s so hard about deciding life paths
27:30 do CEOs have to be good at managing people
29:13 should creators have smaller teams?
33:00 is YouTube still worth it?
35:08 how to make the most out of your PM job
39:23 feeling unimpactful as a PM
40:47 I just wanna be salary man
42:32 creators don’t get to work on the business side
44:50 chloe’s crazy grind schedule
49:11 does chloe want to start her own company?
51:18 eric’s career advice for chloe
53:35 how eric deals with burnout
54:40 eric & chloe’s plans for the next few weeks
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1 hr
July 10, 2024 Don’t date “successful” people.
In Part 2 of our steamiest episode yet - what's it really like to date successful people? Do men like it when women are smarter than them? Should the man in a relationship pay more? Chloe and Eric are joined by a friend to discuss everything related to love and dating in your 30s.
𝙎𝙋𝙄𝘾𝙀 𝙇𝙀𝙑𝙀𝙇: 🌶️🌶️🌶️
𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️
𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 (⁠ @trykarat ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway
co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances
𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ⁠( @chloeshih ) IG: / https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/
tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s.
Editor: Jayna Benito
Disclaimer: This episode features an open and honest discussion about our diverse dating journeys. We understand that some viewpoints may differ from your own, and we fully respect that. Our aim is to create a space for a variety of perspectives rooted in real experiences. Please remember that the content of this podcast is not intended as advice. Instead, we hope it highlights the complexity of dating and love.
𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸
∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod
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∙ youtube → www.youtube.com/@jomopod
∙ discord → https://discord.gg/chloeshih
𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚
0:00 welcome to pt 2!
0:48 what it’s like to date founders
3:02 are founders more likely to cheat?
4:22 the problems with men wanting validation
5:40 was dating in 30s different for eric
6:36 why dating in 30s gets harder for women
8:42 how eric “screens” potential gfs
9:27 why eric doesn’t want kids
10:45 the most forward chloe has ever been
12:57 eric’s consulting rizz
13:43 do guys like when girls are smarter
15:49 how do you know he wants to be more than friends
17:36 definite dealbreakers
18:36 GREEN flags
22:11 being gaslit into open relationships
26:36 improve yourself to attract better people in your life
29:10 why open relationships don’t work long term
31:37 when are you ready to get married
33:06 how eric views marriage
34:55 should men pay for more
41:40 how much $$ do you need to live comfortably in LA
45:09 being a housewife
46:15 favorite romantic tropes
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52 min
July 02, 2024 Dating rizz in your 30s
Do women really care about height? Should you date friends? How do you know when someone is the *one*? Chloe and Eric are joined by a friend to discuss everything related to love and dating in your 30s. There's much to cover, so much so that the episode is broken into two parts. Stay tuned for Part 2 coming next Tuesday!
𝙎𝙋𝙄𝘾𝙀 𝙇𝙀𝙑𝙀𝙇: 🌶️🌶️🌶️
𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️
𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 (⁠ @trykarat ⁠ ) - IG: / erictway
co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances
𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 (⁠ @chloeshih ⁠ ) IG: / chloe.shih
tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s.
Editor: Jayna Benito
𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸
∙ instagram → / jomo.pod
∙ spotify → https://bit.ly/jomo-spotify
∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple
∙ tiktok → / jomopod
∙ youtube → / @jomopod
𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚
0:00 protein chips (and more protein chips)
0:55 introducing our guest!
1:56 one way open relationships
4:20 why have an open relationship
5:40 facing public opinion on open relationships
7:52 would chloe have an open relationship
9:24 how kevin pulled chloe with NO experience
12:30 being tricked into a date
13:48 chloe and kevin’s first date
14:58 overlooking nice guys
16:06 do sf women think too highly of themselves?
18:24 when chloe *finally* fell for kevin
21:45 is it a red flag when they don’t have experience?
23:50 when do you commit to someone?
27:00 dealbreakers
28:18 why did chloe feel confident in her choice in kevin
30:20 simps.
32:00 why eric doesn’t date friends
34:44 eric’s accidental date w an older guy
36:30 why guys full send in dating
38:50 eric’s hinge profile glow up
41:08 does height really matter
43:11 eric’s wildest LA dating story
44:06 why eric fell for his gf
45:56 eric’s history of exes
48:22 hoe phases
49:53 100% certified magic trick for pulling ;)
54:05 stay tuned for pt 2!
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#dating #relationships #love
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55 min
June 25, 2024 Money in content vs tech #unfiltered
Chloe and Eric both left the corporate world for their own pursuits. But it's hard to ignore the elephant in the room: where does money fit into the equation? The JOMO hosts compare their finances from back when they worked corporate jobs, to today as a full-time creator (Chloe) and startup founder (Eric). This is an honest conversation about how money affects relationships and careers in your 20s and 30s — some major 🍵 is spilled!
𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️
𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 (⁠ @trykarat ⁠ ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway/
co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances
𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 (⁠ @chloeshih ⁠ ) IG: https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/
tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s.
Editor: Jayna Benito
𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸
∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod
∙ spotify → https://bit.ly/jomo-spotify
∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple
∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod
∙ youtube → www.youtube.com/@jomopod
𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚
0:00 eric & chloe catch up
5:48 money in relationships
11:14 when did you first start making a lot of money
14:56 when being money driven stops you from doing other things
17:13 are startups *actually* lucrative
20:00 why chloe went into content
29:08 chloe's married life finances
32:09 eric's finances across relationships
37:00 onlyfans
40:00 how having kids changes finances
46:46 the corporate ladder
52:01 how chloe worked her way up
1:00:14 paying for others
1:01:50 chloe's dilemma
1:06:22 how chloe makes money as a creator
1:10:33 getting pregnant🤰🏻

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1 hr 13 min
June 18, 2024 The *truth* behind my layoff
When Chloe got laid off this year, she accidentally went viral and reached over 20m+ views online. This spawned a lot of unexpected things - from getting lots of new opportunities to being retweeted into oblivion. It was truly an atypical layoff experience, but was also the catalyst for Chloe and Eric to finally record this pod.
Hope you enjoy the very first episode of JOMO with Chloe and Eric!

Note: This episode was recorded In February 2024, so some information might be outdated.
𝙏𝙃𝙀 𝙅𝙊𝙈𝙊 𝙃𝙊𝙎𝙏𝙎 🎙️
𝗘𝗿𝗶𝗰 𝗪𝗲𝗶 ( @trykarat ) - IG: https://www.instagram.com/erictway/
co-founder of Karat Financial, helping creators with finances
𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 ( @chloeshih ) IG: https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/
tech product manager sharing perspectives on career, life advice, and living in your 30s.

Editor: Jayna Benito
𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸
∙ instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jomo.pod
∙ tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jomopod
∙ spotify → https://bit.ly/jomo-spotify
∙ youtube → www.youtube.com/@jomopod
∙ apple podcasts → https://bit.ly/jomo-apple

𝘾𝙃𝘼𝙋𝙏𝙀𝙍𝙎 📚
0:00 our silly lil intro
0:25 eric's intro of chloe
7:53 chloe's intro of eric
11:58 what JOMO pod is about
13:39 eric's weekend
18:42 chloe's weekend
20:10 going viral for getting laid off
20:27 getting hate
21:10 going viral in the news
22:13 hate on blind
23:41 eric's take on the hate + layoffs
26:11 new doors opening after the layoffs
28:51 eric's dramatic career w mckinsey, blackstone, facebook
32:31 some weird friend group drama
34:57 lawyering up (getting bullied by an entertainment co)
38:11 creators talking sh*t about chloe
40:40 eric's take on ppl talking sh*t
41:42 was the layoff a good thing?
43:03 dangers of making your life your content
45:55 being shameless going in on content + asking for favors
47:37 pet peeves when ppl ask for favors
50:06 chloe's first impression of eric
52:43 eric's first impression of chloe
57:32 hope u liked this 👉👈 🥺
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59 min
June 04, 2024 This is Office Drama
Welcome to Office Drama!

𝗖𝗵𝗹𝗼𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝗵 - IG: https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/tech product manager making educational videos to elevate your career and life!

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2 min

About Office Drama

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Welcome to ✨ Office Drama ✨ (formerly JOMO) - a work-culture talk show about the inner drama behind career breakthroughs. I'm Chloe Shih, a former tech product manager turned 2M+ followers creator,…