So, I will readily admit that I was a bit naive when it came to the world of leather pageantry.

Obviously I knew that these leather competitions existed, and that they were loosely modelled on beauty pageants, but I kind of assumed that they weren't all that serious.

I just thought that people showed up, had a bit of a laugh, took a few pictures and then went home.

But, I was wrong.

And, I quickly learnt that when I sat down to talk about lost London space The Hoist with life coach and former stand up comedian John Pendal.

John also happens to be the International Mr Leather 2003, so you can rest assured he knows a thing or two about leather pageantry.

As well as excessive instances of me saying 'wow' you can expect to hear about John's sex spreadsheet, the effort he put in to preparing for the different categories of the pageant, and how he discovered his neurodiversity many years later.

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