Old Capital Real Estate Investing Podcast with Michael Becker & Paul Peebles

Multifamily physical due diligence is extremely important. You gotta know what you are buying! You need an apartment inspector to determine the condition of the asset you are buying. Bryan Amos is a multifamily inspector & engineer. He helps buyers uncover possible rehab concerns and potential future costs when they are considering purchasing an apartment building. He is looking out for you and your investors on any potential future capital costs. Bryan creates a reliable rehab/ construction budget for you and your lender to review. Whether the transaction is a stabilized property or a value-added property, most lenders should be able to include the rehab costs into your loan. Again, do not pay for rehab out of monthly cash flow. BUT BEFORE, you engage an inspector at your INITIAL visit at the property with the listing agent, you should have a back-of-the-napkin opinion on what some of the rehab items will cost to replace or repair. Bryan gives us some initial cost breakdowns on several big ticket items like roofs, air conditioning, foundation, & sewer lines. This invaluable discussion is based on Bryan doing hundreds of inspections of apartment buildings. Listen carefully and you will learn a ton of information. To get in contact with Bryan Amos: [email protected] To receive our FREE 15 page WHITE PAPER REPORT on the 2017 FUNDAMENTALS OF MULTIFAMILY FINANCING 101 and to learn more about upcoming events at Old Capital Speaker Series please visit us at OldCapitalPodcast.com Are you interested in learning more about how Multifamily Syndications work? Please visit www.spiadvisory.com to learn about Michael's Real Estate Syndication business with SPI Advisory LLC.

Michael comments on his personal beliefs on apartment ownership. He points to a few factors that keep his outlook positive. According to a new study commissioned by the National Multifamily Housing Council and the National Apartment Association, delayed marriages, an ageing population and international immigration are increasing a pressing need for new apartments in the U.S., to the tune of 4.6 million by 2030. Currently, nearly 39 million people live in apartments, and the apartment industry is quickly exceeding capacity; In the past five years, an average of one million new renter households were formed every year, which is a record amount; and, It will take building an average of at least 325,000 new apartment homes every year to meet demand; yet, on average, just 244,000 apartments were delivered from 2012 through 2016. Delayed house purchases- Life events such as marriage and children are the biggest drivers of home ownership. In 1960, 44 percent of all households in the U.S. were married couples with children. Today, it's less than one in five (19 percent), and this trend is expected to continue. The aging population- People ages 65-plus will account for a large part of population growth going forward across all states. The research shows older renters are helping to drive future apartment demand, particularly in the northeast, where renters ages 55-plus will account for more than 30 percent of rental households. Immigration- International immigration is assumed to account for approximately half (51 percent) of all new population growth in the U.S., with higher growth expected in the nation's border states. This population increase will contribute to the rising demand for apartments. Research has shown that immigrants have a higher propensity to rent and typically rent for longer periods of time. There will also be a growing need for renovations and improvements on existing apartment buildings, which will provide a boost in jobs (and the economy) nationwide. The research found that 51 percent of the apartment stock was built before 1980, which translates into 11.7 million units that could need upgrading by 2030. The older stock is highly concentrated in the northeast.

Michael Becker knows something about finding apartment buying opportunities. He and his investors own thousands of apartment units. Michael explains what it takes to get the momentum going with listing agents and other influencers. Michael shares his win-win strategy on how to build deeper relationships with the "right people" in the apartment brokerage community.

To receive our FREE 15 page WHITE PAPER REPORT on the 2017 FUNDAMENTALS OF MULTIFAMILY FINANCING 101 and to learn more about upcoming events at Old Capital Speaker Series please visit us at OldCapitalPodcast.com Are you interested in learning more about how Multifamily Syndications work? Please visit www.spiadvisory.com to learn about Michael's Real Estate Syndication business with SPI Advisory LLC.

Michael discusses what lenders are looking for when applying for financing on an apartment transaction. With apartment lending- the quality, condition and location of the asset are the most important factors in underwriting. A PRE-APPROVAL is not going to be available because 2/3rds of an apartment lending decision is based on subject property. The lender needs to have a complete picture on a number of critical underwriting variables. Examples: Where is property located and age? What are historical cash flows for the last 2 years and year to date? How much deferred maintenance does the property currently have and what is rehab budget necessary to cure? Who is going to manage the property? What does your monthly proforma show; what is your future expected operating expenses and total income? 1/3 of an apartment lending decision is based on you. What is your liquidity? What is your net worth? What is your past apartment experience and level of ownership or management? Do you receive consistent personal income outside this transaction? Are you going to have additional guarantors, with a sufficient balance sheet that will stand with you? Bottom line, the lender can give you an indication on how much you can qualify for, but because the age, condition and location of the asset is so important in an underwriting approval, a WRITTEN PRE-APPROVAL, before the asset is selected is NOT WORTH VERY MUCH. Speak with your commercial mortgage broker on how to structure the transaction for approval. They will give you a verbal insight on how much you can qualify for based on the total picture. Checklist of Items You'll Need to Provide Your Commercial Loan Broker: ✓ Updated signed personal financial statement ✓ Liquidity verification (bank and/or brokerage statements) ✓ Last 2 years of personal/corporate tax returns ✓ Real estate resume- detail your real estate experience. "I bought a home, fixed it up, and sold it." Tell the story of your successes in real estate. It's like you're applying for the job of running the property. ✓ Schedule of Real Estate owned (what do you currently own; loan balance, value, contingent liability or non-recourse; annual NOI, annual debt service, etc.) ✓ Broker's Offering Memorandum on the property you are looking to purchase ✓ Property's historical monthly operating statements (last two years and YTD) ✓ Current rent roll ✓ Five digital pictures of the interior/ exterior of the property ✓ Your analysis of transaction; share your monthly PROFORMA for the next 12 months. How are you going to operate property?

Lessons learned from 30+ years in Property Management: City Gate Property Group Dawn Waye is President of Dallas/ Fort Worth based City Gate Property Group third party property apartment management. G. Patrick Smits is the CEO. Both have deep knowledge of managing in the "B & C – workforce housing" space. They currently manage over 10,000 units. Dawn & Pat share some ideas on what the 'biggest bang for the buck' will get you as an apartment investor. Dawn shares the '4 P theory' for successful property management. 1) People- Are the onsite people they engaged with your success? 2) Price- Are you getting the best price for materials and labor? 3) Product- Do you have a good idea on what other properties in your submarket are charging in rent for their amenities? 4) Promotion- How are you driving new tenants to the property? Social media? Active marketing? Michael asks Dawn and Pat about surviving a future down turn in apartment investing. To get in contact with Dawn Waye: [email protected] To receive our FREE 15 page WHITE PAPER REPORT on the 2017 FUNDAMENTALS OF MULTIFAMILY FINANCING 101 and to learn more about upcoming events at Old Capital Speaker Series please visit us at OldCapitalPodcast.com Are you interested in learning more about how Multifamily Syndications work? Please visit www.spiadvisory.com to learn about Michael's Real Estate Syndication business with SPI Advisory LLC.

Interest only can certainly help the cash-on-cash returns on your investment. If you are purchasing a broken property- deferred maintenance, bad management, bad occupancy; you need some type of payment relief during times of weak cash flow. Having an interest only period during the renovation is certainly typical for a BRIDGE type of loan. Banks typically don't like to do lots of interest only…because the bank regulators don't like interest only. Most community banks on bridge loans will only do 6-18 months of interest only during the rehab…then it will modify into a principal and interest payment.

Al Silva has successfully closed nearly 15,000 units and over $600 million in investment sales transactions and in doing so has averaged an industry leading 99.6% closed sales price to asking price ratio. Al is currently based out of the Marcus & Millichap Fort Worth office, where he has been the top agent in seven out of nine years since the office opened in 2007. You think it's tough to be awarded a deal by the seller… Al comments on how difficult it is even for a listing agent to win the opportunity to list a property for the seller. Al believes that overall transactional volume will be down 10% in 2017 compared to 2016. He sees that as a blip on the road, when you compare how hot the apartment market has been for the last few years. Al has seen a large increase of international buyers coming into the Dallas/ Fort Worth market. Al comments on what submarkets he likes in the DFW area. If you are a buyer, Al has advice on how you should bid on a property transaction on the tangibles and some of the intangibles needed to win. To get in contact with Al Silva: [email protected] To receive our FREE 15 page WHITE PAPER REPORT on the 2017 FUNDAMENTALS OF MULTIFAMILY FINANCING 101 and to learn more about upcoming events at Old Capital Speaker Series please visit us at OldCapitalPodcast.com Are you interested in learning more about how Multifamily Syndications work? Please visit www.spiadvisory.com to learn about Michael's Real Estate Syndication business with SPI Advisory LLC.

Michael discusses who represents the buyer and seller and who pays the listing agent. In today's HOT apartment market…most apartment listing agents WILL NOT share the sales commission with a buyer's representative. Unlike the single family home market, where it is typical for the listing agent to share or split commission fees, most apartment listing brokers will not pay your agent representing you. If you have buyer's agent in a buyer's transaction, you will likely be paying that agent out of your capital raise.

This is the second podcast focusing on the new apartment buyer. "The first transaction is the hardest…" continues to be our theme. Today, we talk to a couple that was motivated to think about creating a passive income stream by a serious car accident. That life changing event put a new perspective on how important passive income can be. Doug is a dentist in north Texas and was severely injured in an auto accident. He was in a coma for over a week and in physical therapy for months. Imagine not being able to work and earn income during the period time that you are recovering. Think of the impact that this would have on your family. This may never happen to you; but it could. Perhaps passive real estate income should be part of your investment plans. Doug & Jennifer Jopling own a small apartment building in Fort Worth, Texas. We focus on the journey from owning a few single family rental homes to buying an apartment building. Doug & Jennifer share a challenge that they uncovered during the due diligence process. Listen to what was found and how they overcame the unique challenge. To contact Doug or Jennifer: [email protected] To receive our FREE 15 page WHITE PAPER REPORT on the 2017 FUNDAMENTALS OF MULTIFAMILY FINANCING 101 and to learn more about upcoming events at Old Capital Speaker Series please visit us at OldCapitalPodcast.com Are you interested in learning more about how Multifamily Syndications work? Please visit www.spiadvisory.com to learn about Michael's Real Estate Syndication business with SPI Advisory LLC.

Yes and No…. After the Fed's raised rates last week; the 10 year treasury fell. The 10 year treasury is the benchmark interest rate for many commercial real estate transactions. The long term interest rates are getting flatter as compared to the short term interest rates. At this time, it should have a limited impact on investor that purchase or own commercial real estate for a long term hold. We have seen interest rates RISE with the community banks. Many investors use community or regional banks for short term bridge lending. That small rise should not have a significant impact; but be aware in the future if your loan is tied to an adjustable rate index.