Ben and Joe examine some of the struggles they are encountering in the process of pursuing better horsemanship.  They also talk about a few of the things that keep them encouraged and motivated on their journey.

Ben and Joe discuss two figures that have intrigued them.  First, they examine 13th century world leader Ghengis Khan.  The man who started the world’s largest land empire and shaped much of the history in Asia, Europe and the Middle East.  Second, Ben and Joe talk about 5 time NBA Champion Kobe Bryant.  Known for his Mamba Mentality”, Kobe is seen as one of most competitive and well disciplined basketball players of all time.  Listen here to hear Ben and Joe deliberate on these extraordinary men and how they stayed on the move.

Ben and Joe reflect on the weekend at Stony Creek Ranch.  Topics discussed include which historical figures you’d like to have dinner with, favorite TV shows and how to deal with the fear of failure.

Ben and Joe discuss the genesis of the podcast, horsemen, cowboys, whiskey and what it means to be ‘On The Move’.