One God Report

In this episode I examine parallels between modern deviant gender and sexual claims and the claims of traditional Christianity for a dual-natured (God and man) Christ. The parallels are striking, and suggest the dual-natured Christ of traditional Christianity is a deviation, a perversion of the true.

1. A non-binary gender claim is that being one gender does not exclude a person from being another gender. Being a female does not exclude a person from being male. The male / female boundary can be crossed over by the same person. There is fluidity between genders. One can move back and forth between genders, or be both genders at the same time.

Likewise, the traditional Christian Jesus is non-binary in that he is both God and human. The traditional Christian Jesus has fluidity. He is not limited by the border between God and humanity. He can be both God and human at the same time. Sometimes the divine Jesus may speak, other times the human Jesus speaks.

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2. Reality is not about appearances. Reality is about who we really are. A woman may have the body of a female, she may appear to be a woman. But what matters is what is inside, who this person really is. Inside she can be male, or again she has fluidity to be male or female “inside”.

Likewise, according to traditional Christianity, Jesus had a human body. He lived on this earth. He walked like a man, he talked like a man, and his body even died. But inside he really wasn’t a man. Inside he was really God.

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3. Distorted gender claims change the meaning of pronouns. Along with the attempt to eliminate gender boundaries, a gay or transgender person wants to be referred to with a different gendered pronoun. A person who is really a he wants to be referred to as she.

Likewise, traditional Christianity confuses the number in the pronoun in which God is referred to. The traditional Christian God is three persons, “they”, but the Trinitarian three person God is universally referred to, confusedly, as “he” or “him”. Let me read a couple of verses and ask how many persons are involved when the Bible speaks of God.

Deut. 4:35 “יהוה He is God, there is no other besides him.

How many persons are in the pronouns “he” and “him”?

Isaiah 45:5: “I am יהוה and there is no other. Besides me there is no other god.

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4. As liberal and progressive movements have hijacked language and changed the meaning of words, so has traditional Christianity. Even the word “Christian” has been changed to mean something that it did not mean. In the Bible it was used to mean someone who believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Messiah. But now the word has been transformed to refer to someone who believes that Jesus is God. Someone who believes that Jesus is God should more truthfully be called a “theosian” or a “deusian”.

Trinitarian and deity of Christ believer, could it be that as modern views about gender and sex are a perversion and a deviation from the truth, so is your view of God and His Messiah? Could it be that the same spirit that wants to erase gender boundaries is the spirit that wants to erase the boundary between God and man? Is your dual natured Jesus a non-binary, fluid Jesus? Is the traditional Christian Jesus really a “liberal, progressive” Jesus, a perversion of the true Messiah Jesus of Nazareth?

Could it be that God and His Messiah look upon this deviation from whom they really are with the same disapproval that they view the perversion of gender and sex?

Many Christians seem to think that because Jesus is worshipped, he is God.

1. biblically ignorant. There are many humans in the Bible that are properly worshipped.

2. anti-Christ, a denial that Jesus Christ is a man. The claim “Jesus must be God if he is worshipped” is in effect: "We will not have this one, this man, rule over us".

3. Contradictory: On the one hand: “Jesus is fully man” but on the other hand: “I’m not worshipping a man.”

4. Not a biblical claim. The Bible never says, “Jesus is worshipped so he must be God”. Rather the claim is based on a misunderstanding of word meanings and wrong philosophical speculation.

There is only one God, יהוה, The Father.

We worship God as God. We worship no one else as God other than יהוה, The Father.

We worship Jesus as the Messiah who gave his life for us, and the one to whom God has given all authority in heaven and on earth, not only in this age, but also in the age to come.

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Full written text of this podcast click here:

https://landandbible.blogspot.com/2021/06/jesus-is-worshipped-so-he-must-be-god.html

Other resources:

Podcast and notes/word study of “worship” by Sean Finnegan

http://restitutio.org/2016/03/04/should-we-worship-jesus/

Brother Kel article on the word “worship” in the Bible

I took the Trinity quiz on The Gospel Coalition's website (link below).

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I make some comments along the way about the quiz, and about a few biblical verses that are presented on the website as evidence that God is a Trinity, and about two lectures on the Trinity by R.C. Sproul.

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The Gospel Coalition is an evangelical Protestant organization. I was frustrated and surprised that during the quiz, only one Bible verse was given in support of declarations about the Trinity. Instead, the declarations were backed up by statements from the Athanasian Creed (c. AD 500) and modern theologians. 

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In the end, it seems like Evangelical Protestants are being hypocritical. While accusing Jews and Catholics of holding tradition as more authoritative than the Bible, Evangelicals depend on tradition to define their key concepts about who (or what) God and Jesus are. 

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The Bible is clear that there is only one God. (Deuteronomy 6:4, 32:39, Mark 12:29, Isaiah 44:24, John 17:3. 1 Cor. 8:6, Gal. 4:6). 

The name of God in the Bible appears over 6800 times and is spelled with the four Hebrew consonants יהוה. Here is an example of what יהוה the God of the Bible says:

Deuteronomy 32:39 “See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god beside me.”

The Bible is also clear that the Lord Jesus Christ has a God. So, is the one God of the Bible, יהוה, who states that He alone is the only God – is He the Lord Jesus Christ’s God?

The only God, יהוה, must be, has to be, the Lord Jesus Christ’s God. So, the Lord Jesus Christ is not God.

We look at Scriptures that explicitly state that the Lord Jesus Christ has a God. We see that in the Bible, both in the Old Testament and in the New Testament, God is the Father alone.  The only God, the Lord Jesus Christ's God, is the Father.

For full text of this podcast see here:

https://landandbible.blogspot.com/2019/07/jesus-has-god_6.html

Why don't Trinitarians or those who believe in the deity of Christ, love those who believe that Jesus is the Christ?

Why do Trinitarians shun and reject those who believe that Jesus is the Christ?

Comments of 1 John 5:1: "Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born of God, and everyone who loves the Father loves whomever has been born of him."

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For full text of this podcast, see here.

https://landandbible.blogspot.com/2019/09/do-you-love-person-who-believes-that.html

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHafqVmYLlM

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Biblical Unitarian podcast video “Where is the Trinity Revealed in the Bible?”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsX2LGI_PGc

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Son of God in the Bible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaDElO7wU_8

“Where do we go when we die? Or, What has the Greek Philosopher Plato got to do with Christianity?”

Interview with Pastor Sean Finnegan

Sean Finnegan is pastor at Living Hope Community Church in Latham, New York. He also serves as an adjunct professor at Atlanta Bible College where he teaches courses in Church History, Apologetics, and Basic Bible Doctrine, and he is the host of the Restitutio Podcast. Website:

https://restitutio.org/

https://www.lathamchurch.org/

Additional Resources on the topic “Christians don’t go to heaven, but await the resurrection to the kingdom of God”:

http://www.onegodreport.com/christians_dont_go_to_heaven_but_await_the_resurrection_to_the_kingdom_of_god

Restitutio podcast: Conditional Immortality

https://restitutio.org/2019/02/14/164-theology-3-conditional-immortality/

Restitutio podcast: Challenging Conditional Immortality

https://restitutio.org/2019/02/21/165-theology-4-challenging-conditional-immortality/

Topics and questions addressed in this episode:

1. Most Christians today think that those who believe in Jesus, when they die, their soul or self separates and goes to heaven. Is this biblical and if not, where did Christians get this idea from?

2. Explanation of  the Greek philosophical view of Plato that "death is the separation of the soul from the body". Most Christians think Plato’s       description of death is in the Bible.

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3. If people don’t “go to heaven” when they die, what is the biblical view of what happens to a  person when they die?

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4. Is the human soul or self immortal? What is meant by “conditional immortality”?

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5. As examples, two main passages that Christians point to as evidence that “when you die you go to heaven”

    Luke 23:43 And he said to him, "Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise." Punctuate  differently: “Truly I say to you today, you will be with me in Paradise”

    2 Corinthians 5:8 Yes, we are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord.

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6. If people’s souls don’t separate from their bodies at death and go to heaven, that is a lie, no? How does this lie deflect from what is real? A different hope. What is the biblical hope for a believer in God and Jesus?

We continue our discussion of what John 1:14 "the Word became flesh" really means.

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As described in earlier podcasts (#39 and #41) "the Word became flesh" does not mean that God became man/flesh.

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So, what does the "Word became flesh mean? 

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Why does John use the word "flesh"?

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How has the Greek philosophical concept popularized by Plato, that the soul lives separately from the body of flesh, influenced Christian interpretation of John 1:14? Does the Bible say that man's soul is alive separate from his body of flesh?

What is the biblical view of flesh? How is flesh alive? Can the God of the Bible ever be flesh?

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For the full written text of the podcast see here:

https://landandbible.blogspot.com/2021/03/is-god-flesh-better-way-to-understand.html

In this episode we continue thinking about what John 1:14 "and the Word became flesh" means, and we ask deity of Christ believers who appeal to John 1:1 and John 1:14, “So you believe that God became flesh?” Do you think that “God is flesh?”

We give reasons why a better way to understand John 1:14 is that “the Logos, the Word was flesh”. In other words, the Logos, the Word - God’s communication to us - was the human being, the man Christ Jesus from Nazareth.

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Our discussion continues in the next podcast episode. For full written text of these two episodes "Is God Flesh", click here.

https://landandbible.blogspot.com/2021/03/is-god-flesh-better-way-to-understand.html

This episode is an interview with Sir Anthony Buzzard, one of the most active One God believers of our time. Most listeners to this podcast will know about Sir Anthony. If by chance you don’t, you will want to become familiar with him and his work.

Anthony taught for decades at the Church of God, Abrahamic Faith Bible college, now called Atlanta Bible College. He is the author of a number of books, including The Doctrine of the Trinity, Christianity’s Self-inflicted Wound, Jesus was Not a Trinitarian, The Coming Kingdom of the Messiah, Our Fathers who Aren’t in Heaven, Who is Jesus, and more. Some of them are available for free pdf download. See the links to his books and webpage.

I wanted to ask Sir Anthony about some of the changes he has seen in the One God faith movement, and what he has thought have been, and should continue to be effective witnessing tools.

One emphasis in the podcast that I would like listeners to note is the excitement and persistence that Sir Anthony has and continues to have in sharing about the One God and His human Messiah, Jesus of Nazareth. Apart from programs that may or may not be effective, I think every one of us can learn from Anthony about being excited and persistent in our sharing about the God of the Bible and His anointed, the Messiah Jesus. Be this face to face with our neighbors and others we meet, or through the modern media of the internet.

Another emphasis that Anthony makes is that we should gain experience, practice in witnessing about our faith in the one God, and this experience is gained by doing it.

We also discuss the “deity of Christ” and Jehovah’s Witness claim that “Jesus pre-existed”.

At the end of the interview, I take the liberty of sharing one other element that I believe is, or could be, essential for an effective witness to God and His Messiah.

Books: The Doctrine of the Trinity, Christianity’s Self-inflicted Wound (and more)

https://focusonthekingdom.org/books/

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https://focusonthekingdom.org/

For many people who believe in the “deity of Christ”, a few words from John 1:1 combined with a few words from John 1:14 forms the #1 evidence that Jesus is God, and that therefor somehow God is a Trinity.

In this podcast we focus on the problems with the “deity of Christ” and Trinitarian interpretation of John 1:14, the claim that “God became man.”

There is no Trinity in John 1:1 or John 1:14 or anywhere else in John’s Gospel.

The incarnation, or “God became man” interpretation plucks a few words from the Gospel of John and creates its most important, essential, seminal doctrine, while ignoring nearly the entirety of the rest of the Gospel of John, and the Bible as a whole. Jesus’ own words in the Gospel of John, and the author’s own purpose statement are ignored.

Does the Greek word (egeneto) translated in most English Bibles in John 1:14 as “became” mean that one member of a multi-person godhead transformed into flesh? Did one member a godhead “become” man like the fairy tale prince became frog? Many “diety of Christ” believers seem to believe that one member of a godhead inhabited a human body like the human prince inhabited a frog body.

If God became man by taking on another nature, human nature (flesh), then why has the Trinitarian god been defined for hundreds of years as having only one nature?

Deity of Christ interpreters are like magicians who claim one moment that there God has one nature, but then the next moment insist that their god has two natures.

Why is the conception and birth of Jesus the Messiah not described at all in the Gospel of John, if the author wanted to communicate that God becameman? We call the incarnation “the Greatest Story Never Told”.

We explain why “deity of Christ” belief in a “trans-nature” god is similar to, and in some ways even worse, than the modern trans-gender claims. Christians who believe in a trans-natured god and condemn transgenders and homosexuals are being hypocritical.

We note how history is against the “God became man” interpretation of John 1:14, and see how the interpretation was developed in Greco-Roman-Byzantine philosophical speculation in lands outside of Israel. The Gospel of John must be understood from a 1st century Hebraic background, not from a 2-5thcentury Gentile viewpoint.

The worst aspect of the “God became man” interpretation is that it denies that Jesus of Nazareth is a human person. In the end, it tends to eliminate even the abstract “human nature” from Jesus.

There is a better way to interpret John 1:14 which does not deny that Jesus is a human person. We plan to make a suggestion in a podcast to come.

https://landandbible.blogspot.com/2021/01/the-word-became-flesh-why-john-114-does.html

Links for other sources mentioned in the podcast:

Evolution of the Trinity, Interview with Dr. Dale Tuggy (part 1)

https://anchor.fm/onegodreport-podcast/episodes/10-Evolution-of-the-Trinity--Interview-with-Dr--Dale-Tuggy--part-1-ebro54

“Jesus is Not a Human Person”