This is episode 2 of a special five-part series on the Brookings Cafeteria podcast in which John Hudak, a senior fellow in Governance Studies, explores the facts and tackles the myths that underpin the current immigration policy debate. In episode 2, Hudak explores the connections—social and economic—that span communities along the US-Mexico border, and gets a better understanding of issues from and rhetoric about border towns, such as crime and jobs.

Guests include:

- Michael Chertoff, former secretary, Department of Homeland Security - Mayor Donald "Dee" Margo, El Paso, Texas - Mayor Kevin Faulconer, San Diego, California

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