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We made it to Day 12! We hope you've had a wonderful holiday season! Thank you all for such a great 2023!


Most people have heard of the Green River Killer. Washington State’s most notorious serial killer was hard to miss in the 1990s. His moniker and his horrendous deeds could be found in most major newspapers across America. But there was another serial killer preying on society’s weak and vulnerable at about the same time in the exact same state.

While Gary Ridgeway was killing women and dumping them on the western side of Washington, Robert Lee Yates Jr was doing the same thing just four hours to the east on the other side of the state. In fact, at one point, investigators thought that the Green River Killer had just moved his hunting ground. But after a few bodies showed up in Spokane with gunshot wounds and plastic grocery bags wrapped around their heads, they realized that the MO was totally different. With a growing sense of dread, investigators realized that the sex workers and runaways of Spokane were not the victims of the Green River Killer. They were the victims of an entirely different monster.

Join Cam and Jen as they discuss "Little White Corvette: Robert Lee Yates Jr."

Thank you to our team:
Written and researched by Lauretta Allen
Listener Discretion by Edward October from OctoberpodVHS https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideo
Executive Producer Nico Vitesse of https://theinkypawprint.com

Sources:
https://www.youtube.com/watchv=zK9oS7LvoIk&ab_channel=RealCrime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CInxSUo55tM&ab_channel=A%26E
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4864008/ahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u5GI8TAG4U&ab_channel=LMN
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Lee_Yateshttps://murderpedia.org/male.Y/y/yates-robert-lee.htmhttps://www.newspapers.com/image/604663550/?terms=Novella%20Yates&match=1
https://www.newspapers.com/image/571180108/terms=%22Susan%20Savage%22%20Patrick%20Oliver&match=1
https://www.newspapers.com/image/803298584/terms=%22Susan%20Savage%22%20Patrick%20Oliver&match=1
https://www.newspapers.com/image/803360991/?terms=%22Susan%20Savage%22%20Patrick%20Oliver&match=1
https://www.newspapers.com/image/873550866/terms=%22Susan%20Savage%22%20Patrick%20Oliver&match=1

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On June 2, 1985, the Southern San Francisco police department received a report of a shoplifting incident. A man calmly exited a store with a tool called a vice, placed it in the trunk of a beige 1980 Honda Prelude, and vanished before apprehension could occur. Officer Daniel Wright reported to the South City Lumberyard. Inside the car was a man who presented a driver's license identifying him as Robin Stapley. One issue: the license photo did not match the man sitting in front of them. License plates on the vehicle indicated that it was registered to an individual named Lonnie Bond, and the car was listed as a Buick. Growing suspicious, officers got into the trunk and discovered the vice that had been reported as stolen. Also inside the trunk is a .22-caliber revolver fitted with a silencer. The unknown man was taken into the station, where he adamantly denied any involvement in any wrongdoing. What would unfold in the next several days is unthinkable.

Join Jen and Cam of Our True Crime Podcast as we discuss The Torture Dungeon of Charles Ng and Leonard Lake: Day 11 of The 12 Nightmares Before Christmas.

Listener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS
Music by our EP Nico @theinkypawprint


Sources:http://articles.latimes.com/1999/jan/08/news/mn-61708

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2199&dat=19850616&id=2tsxAAAAIBAJ&pg=6662,3773323&hl=en

http://www.biography.com/people/charles-ng-11735781#synopsis

http://articles.latimes.com/1999/apr/12/news/mn-26600

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2199&dat=19850616&id=2tsxAAAAIBAJ&pg=6662,3773323&hl=en

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/county-289813-convicted-murders.html

http://articles.latimes.com/1999/apr/21/local/me-29591

https://web.archive.org/web/20110308053131/http://www.francesfarmersrevenge.com/stuff/serialkillers/miranda.htm

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Welcome to Our True Crime Podcast’s original “12 Nightmares Before Christmas,” where we discuss a true crime story daily for the days leading up to December 24. Make sure to like, subscribe, and tune in each day.

Day 10 is here!

On September 4, 2022, 32-year-old Myles Sanderson went on a killing spree in Weldon, Saskatchewan, Canada, on the James Smith Cree Nation. Eleven people lost their lives, and eighteen more were injured. This event is considered to be one of the deadliest massacres in Canadian history.

In a country where mass killings are relatively rare, the attacks shook the country to its core. Especially when Canadians discovered shortly thereafter that the RCMP had been looking for Myles since May of 2022 when he stopped meeting with his caseworker. The public was aghast to learn of Myles Sanderson’s criminal history and how the system had so grievously failed them.

Join Cam and Jen as they discuss "The Saskatchewan Stabbings."

Thank you to our team:
Written and researched by Lauretta Allen
Listener Discretion by Edward October from OctoberpodVHS https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideo
Executive Producer Nico Vitesse of https://theinkypawprint.com

Sources:
https://www.bbc.com/news/worlduscanada65405210.ampfbclid=IwAR2994KEosA5lr9iTeFg5UD0Wg3zeZpYBgtIcRLnL1sAIX66_B1-huuj-vk]
https://www.youtube.com/watchv=yUpq_R3IBQg&ab_channel=CBCNews%3ATheNationalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxae5-sVnaU&ab_channel=CBCNews%3ATheNational
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62829432
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Saskatchewan_stabbings
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/a-timeline-of-the-deadly-stabbing-rampage-at-james-smith-cree-nation-in-saskatchewan/article_a34550a5-7a21-5518-a7e4-2edf7c096a5a.html
https://globalnews.ca/news/9232740/james-smith-cree-nation-vanessa-burns-myles-sanderson/
https://globalnews.ca/news/9232740/james-smith-cree-nation-vanessa-burnsmyles-sanderson/
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/here-s-what-we-know-about-myles-sanderson-accused-killer-in-saskatchewan-stabbing-rampage/article_676a69c4-444c-5df6-9ea3-01632de2b1b1.html

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Welcome to Our True Crime Podcast’s original “12 Nightmares Before Christmas,” where we discuss a true crime story daily for the days leading up to December 24. Make sure to like, subscribe, and tune in each day.

On the 9th day of our "12 Nightmares before Christmas," our journey takes us to Pune, India, where we encounter twenty-one-year-old Renuka Kiran Shinde. She had just returned to her home, which she shared with her second husband, her son from her first marriage, her mother, Anjanabai, and her younger stepsister, Seema Gavit. Renuka was excited, as the family had long struggled financially and was searching for a way to obtain money quickly. Renuka believed she had a perfect plan, albeit a highly gruesome one, that would eventually earn the three women the infamous title of 'India’s Child Killers.'

Join Cam and Jen of Our True Crime Podcast as we discuss India’s Baby Killers: The Family That Kills Together: Day 9 of The 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

Listener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS

Music by our EP Nico @theinkypawprint

Sources:
https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/mumbai-news/gavit-sister-case-files-how-a-25-year-old-legal-battle-unfolded-101642525732195.html


http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/thieves-who-kidnapped-used-and-killed-babies


https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=Awr9zX7klHdlUkMFDBkPxQt.;_ylu=Y29sbwNncTEEcG9zAzIEdnRpZAMEc2VjA3Ny/RV=2/RE=1702364517/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fwww.news.com.au%2fworld%2fasia%2fserial-killer-sisters-renuke-shinde-and-seema-gavit-who-abducted-and-murdered-children-in-bid-to-avoid-execution-at-the-gallows%2fnews-story%2fef93b4b1ccc699db80223bbf0b4018ad/RK=2/RS=jnLE6M79LjOhcMYmotZkPaGMKM4-


https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=Awr9zX7klHdlUkMFFBkPxQt.;_ylu=Y29sbwNncTEEcG9zAzQEdnRpZAMEc2VjA3Ny/RV=2/RE=1702364517/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fwww.indiatoday.in%2findia%2fstory%2fkolhapur-sisters-death-sentence-commuted-to-life-imprisonment-1901450-2022-01-18/RK=2/RS=YkfM2ACzy0NPpMqR6Mph14JiF44-


https://thecrimewire.com/true-crime/Renuka-Shinde-and-Seema-Gavit-the-Serial-Killer-Sisters-of-India


https://www.opindia.com/2022/01/maharashtra-serial-killer-sisters-death-sentence-commuted-life-imprisonment-kidnapped-children-murdered/

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Welcome to Our True Crime Podcast’s original “12 Nightmares Before Christmas,” where we discuss a true crime story daily for the days leading up to December 24. Make sure to like, subscribe, and tune in each day.

It's already day 8!

On an August morning in 2009 in Brunswick, Georgia, twenty-two-year-old Guy Heinze Jr returned to the trailer that he shared with nine family members. When he stepped inside, he found the beaten bodies of seven people: his father, Guy Sr, Russell Toler Sr, Russell Jr, Michelle and Chrissy Toler, Brenda Falagan, and Joseph West. Michael Toler and Chrissy's three-year-old were clinging to life. Michael would later die at the hospital.

Guy Heinze Jr was arrested for the murders and found guilty in a court of law. But not everyone agrees with the verdict. While some agree Guy Jr killed his entire family in a drug-fueled rage, others believe that he is completely innocent. At the very least, they feel he did not get a fair trial and that the investigation was poorly executed.

Listen to Cam and Jen discuss "The Gynn County Massacre: Guy Heinze Jr" and decide for yourself.

Thank you to our team:
Written and researched by Lauretta Allen
Listener Discretion by Edward October from OctoberpodVHS https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideo
Executive Producer Nico Vitesse of https://theinkypawprint.com



Sources:

https://law.justia.com/cases/georgia/supreme-court/2020/s20a1353.html
https://casetext.com/case/heinze-v-state-3#:~:text=The%20blood%20on%20the%20top,%2C%20Sr.%2C%20on%20it.
https://www.bbcselect.com/ca/watch/life-and-death-row/
https://thebrunswicknews.com/news/local_news/lawyer-heinze-passed-lie-test/article_c2ef5216-bd07-5909-a687-d053ee9a294a.html
https://antipolygraph.org/blog/2014/10/11/polygraph-operator-ken-blackstone-pleads-guilty-to-perjury/
hhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIDxPdnnmaU&ab_channel=CharleyBourneTrueCrime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwvPvE8rGvI&ab_channel=TracyAnne%28Chasing%29
https://www.change.org/p/free-guy-heinze-jnr-wrongfully-convicted-of-familicide
(this petition is now closed, but it does give information about the case )
https://www.jacksonville.com/picture-gallery/news/crime/2019/09/23/a-look-back-guy-heinze/67382362007/
https://eu.jacksonville.com/story/news/crime/2009/09/01/stub-1847/15975006007/

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Welcome to Our True Crime Podcast’s original “12 Nightmares Before Christmas,” where we discuss a true crime story daily for the days leading up to December 24. Make sure to like, subscribe, and tune in each day.


On Saturday, September 19, 1992, Ken Seily and his companion Keith Caldwell were pursuing their shared passion for running. Both were running club members and regularly trained on various trails within the Belangalo State Forest. They spent a significant part of the day running through the forest, eventually reaching a location known as the "Executioners Drop" due to its steep descent into a deep gorge. However, as they neared this spot, a foul odor began to fill the air. The closer they came to the area, the more intense the stench. Upon reaching their destination, they noticed an unusual mound on the ground, with what appeared to be strands of human hair protruding from it. Upon closer examination, they also observed a shoe fragment emerging from the mound. Sadly, the discovery of this body would be the first of many to come.

Join Cam and Jen from Our True Crime Podcast to discuss The Backpack Killer: Ivan Milat: Day 7 of The 12 Nightmares Before Christmas.

Listener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS

Music by our EP Nico @theinkypawprint

Sources:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/oct/27/ivan-milat-chilling-serial-murders-haunt-australia-after-death

https://www.aetv.com/real-crime/ivan-milat


https://www.crimeandinvestigation.co.uk/shows/ivan-milat-backpacker-murderer/ivan-milat-the-australian-serial-killer-who-murdered-7-backpackers


https://www.strangeoutdoors.com/true-crime-in-the-outdoors/the-real-wolf-creek

https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/backpacker-paul-onions-took-down-serial-killer-ivan-milat


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7620569/UK-backpacker-helped-convict-Ivan-Milat-says-serial-killers-death-doesnt-change-anything.html


https://nypost.com/2016/12/06/backpacker-serial-killer-boasts-prison-is-a-cakewalk/

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Day 6! We are halfway there!

​The revival was just getting started when 56-year-old farmer Rowland Stuart Taylor felt a wave of nausea and abdominal discomfort. Thinking it was just something he ate, Stuart fidgeted but wanted to stay for the revival. As the service went on, he began to feel worse and worse. He also didn’t want to disappoint his girlfriend, 45-year-old Velma Barfield, by leaving, so he decided to go out to the truck to lie down for a while.

When the revival ended, Velma returned to the truck and drove them home. She had to stop the vehicle at least once for Stuart to throw up on the side of the road. Assuming he had one of the many strains of influenza, Stuart asked a friend to care for his pigs “just until I get over this flu.” Stuart never got over the flu. He died two days later.

Stuart had not died of natural causes. He’d been murdered by his sweet, unassuming girlfriend, Velma Barfield.

Join Cam and Jen as they discuss "Bye Bye Velma: Death Row Granny".

Thank you to our team:
Written and researched by Lauretta Allen
Listener Discretion by Edward October from OctoberpodVHS https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideo
Executive Producer Nico Vitesse of https://theinkypawprint.com

Sources:
https://www.amazon.com/Death-Sentence-Barfields-Crimes-Punishment-ebook/dp/B07W1PVKHX
https://www.youtube.com/watchv=qDS_Pijlzx0&ab_channel=TheCrimeReel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXHn2dqhLzM&ab_channel=FilmRiseTrueCrime
https://www.youtube.com/watchv=ofdGA8yudqU&ab_channel=DeathRowExecutions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velma_Barfieldhttps://exhibits.lib.unc.edu/exhibits/show/capital-punishment/biographies/barfield
https://murderpedia.org/female.B/b/barfield-velma.htm (your one-stop info dump on Velma)
https://www.newspapers.com/image/401327868/?terms=Velma%20Barfield&match=1
https://www.newspapers.com/image/494467203/
https://www.newspapers.com/image/569891081/?terms=Velma%20Barfield&match=1
https://www.newspapers.com/image/705107544/?terms=Velma%20Barfield&match=1

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On November 10, 1986, the Redlands, California, police department received an urgent phone call from a concerned woman. She reported that her highly responsible employee, 20-year-old Corinna Novis, had failed to show up for work for several days, which was uncharacteristic of her. Corinna recently relocated from Idaho to California and worked diligently to support her education. As news of Corinna's disappearance began circulating in the media and spread throughout the area, the Redlands Police Department received an intriguing phone call from the Laguna Police Department. A Laguna Police sergeant reported that a local convenience store manager had made a puzzling discovery near the dumpster.

Join Cam and Jen of Our True Crime Podcast to discuss Wicked Romance: Cynthia Coffman and James Marlow: Day 5 of The 12 Nightmares Before Christmas.

Listener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS
Music by our EP Nico @theinkypawprint

Sources:
https://murderific.com/cynthia-coffman-james-marlow/

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/ca-supreme-court/1445535.html

https://scocal.stanford.edu/opinion/people-v-marlow-33453

https://wickedwe.com/cynthia-coffman/

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1992-04-26-mn-1532-story.html

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It's Day 4!

On a cold and cloudy May of 1992, a middle-aged man and his mother visited the Hillview Memorial Cemetery in the Springfield township of Oakland County, Michigan. They were there to leave flowers for his father, who had passed away two years before. The man noticed something odd as he approached his father’s grave. There was a car parked haphazardly on the drive, with the door standing wide open. The man honked his horn, but when he got no response to that, he became worried. He got out of the car to investigate, and that’s when he saw a tattooed, muscular man with a mustache dragging a woman into the bushes along the tree line. The mustached man had his hand over the woman’s mouth, and she looked frightened. “Sir, will you go away?” the muscular tattooed man yelled.

The older man’s blood ran cold as he realized that what was going on wasn't consensual. As casually as he could, he placed the flowers on his father’s grave, turned, took down the car's license plate number, and then drove away. Soon, he happened upon a patrol officer who was at the scene of an accident just a quarter of a mile from the entrance to the cemetery. He told the officer he’d just seen a man try to abduct a woman from Hillview Memorial. Oakland County Deputy Gary Alexander hopped in his car and headed straight for the graveyard. As the officer got closer, he saw the car speeding down the road, and he then engaged in a high-speed chase.

As he was cuffing the man, he heard a sound. He stopped, glanced around, and realized the noise was coming from the car's trunk. After securing the suspect, the officer managed to open the trunk, and there he found a woman bound with a plastic zip-tie around her neck. Alexander also found a handgun, a knife, and a bag of zip ties in the car. The deputy pulled the driver’s license from the man’s wallet, which read: Leslie Allen Williams.

Join Cam and Jen as they discuss " Broken: Leslie Allen Williams"

Thank you to our team:
Written and researched by Lauretta Allen
Listener Discretion by Edward October from https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideo
Executive Producer Nico Vitesse of https://theinkypawprint.com

Sources:
https://murderpedia.org/male.W/w/williams-leslie-allen.htm
https://mdocweb.state.mi.us/otis2/otis2profile.aspx?mdocNumber=130095
https://omny.fm/shows/already-gone/serial-killer-leslie-allen-williams
https://www.newspapers.com/image/453978537/
https://www.newspapers.com/image/453978836/
https://crimeindetroit.com/documents/Deadly%20 Nighmare%20ends%20Confession%20to%204%20Deaths.pd
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Today, we are going to the University of Alabama at Huntsville. It was February 12, 2010, and the day commenced like any other typical school day. The campus bustled with activity, featuring a mix of young students envisioning their future and more mature individuals returning to complete degrees they had embarked on years earlier.

On that morning at UAH, Instructor Amy Bishop conducted her science classes, and her students later described the course as uneventful and routine. Meanwhile, a meeting for the biology department was slated for Room 369 in the Shelby Center for Science and Technology, which housed both the Biology and Mathematics departments. Amy Bishop joined her colleagues at the meeting, and for approximately 40 minutes, she sat silently among them.

What would happen next would shock the academic community, leaving three families grieving and many asking why.

Join Cam and Jen of Our True Crime Podcast to discuss A Fine Line Between Genius and Insanity: Amy Bishop: Day 3: The 12 Nightmares Before Christmas.
Listener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS
Music by our EP Nico @theinkypawprint

Sources:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/02/11/a-loaded-gun

https://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/21/us/21bishop.html

https://www.al.com/news/2022/08/amy-bishops-son-seth-anderson-died-in-unintentional-shooting-huntsville-teen-indicted.html

https://www.al.com/topic/Amy%20Bishop/index.html

https://sports.yahoo.com/amy-bishops-son-seth-bishop-200037215.htm

lhttps://criminal-justice.iresearchnet.com/types-of-crime/school-violence/amy-bishop/

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/amy-bishop-husband-alleged-university-alabama-shooter-loving-mother-wife/story?id=9883895

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3280081/Former-Alabama-professor-shot-6-3-fatally-apologizes.html

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2010/02/amy_bishop_alleged_uah_shooter.html

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