****Content Warning**** Sexual Assault****

Cape Town, South Africa: In the early hours of May 27, 2017, Hannah Cornelius drove her friend Cheslin Marsh home after a night out. Before Cheslin could say goodbye, four men hijacked the car at knifepoint and kidnapped the two Stellenbosch University students.

Cheslin was beaten with bricks and left to die. The gang members brutally assaulted Hannah and then murdered her in a senseless, brutal, and barbaric attack.

The gang members would then go on a crime spree in Hannah's car until the police finally caught them.

Please join Cam and Jen as we discuss Hell Ride: Hannah Cornelius.
**Jen apologizes in advance if she pronounced anything incorrectly. She really tried!

A HUGE thank you to Nicole from True Crime South Africa for helping us get the court documents.

Thanks to the OTCP team
Listener Discretion by Edward @OctoberpodVHS. You can find him on all your podcast apps or at https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideo

Producer and theme music by Nico Vettese
wetalkofdreams.com

Researched and written by Lauretta Allen

Sources:

The foundation was set up in Hannah’s name by her mother, Anna.
https://hcfoundation.org.za/

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Earlier this month, Cam and Jen sat down with John Palmer and discussed the tragic accident that took his wife Katie's life.

​April 21st, 2020, in Denison, Texas, situated on the border of Oklahoma. Thirty-eight-year-old Katie Palmer decided to take an early morning walk with her husband, John Palmer, hoping to see the nesting spot for a bird known as a killdeer.

As the couple was returning home, they walked along Glenwood Drive at 7:45 A.M, on the left-hand side, facing the traffic, as pedestrians are supposed to do in Texas. Glenwood Drive also did not have dividing paint lines; it’s just an open road where drivers know to stay on their side. It’s wide, it’s flat, and there is nothing on it to hinder a person’s view. The sightline is over 600 feet, and the maximum speed limit is 30 miles per hour.

​About 1/5th of a mile from their home, a Ford F-250 pickup truck crossed from the right-hand side of the road to the left-hand side of the road and struck Katie and John as they were walking. The vehicle struck Katie and Josh with such force that it knocked them out of their shoes. Katie landed 75 feet away, and John landed 70 feet away. For a little context, 75 feet is equivalent to the height of a six to seven-story building. Katie wouldn't survive.

The driver of the truck, a neighbor named Cory Foster, has a driving record filled with DUIs, speeding, and reckless driving, yet he was able to walk away from this scot-free.

Everything about Katie's case has been mishandled. Trust us, it will get your blood boiling.

Thank you to John Palmer for coming to the show. We know the road to justice is exhausting, but we will stand beside you in your journey and fight.

Please go to the following links for more information and updates on Katie's case.

Justice For Katie Palmer Facebook page.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/369021997579713

Justice For Katie Palmer website
https://justiceforkatiepalmer.com/

Justice For Katie Palmer on Twitter
@for_palmer

If you would like to donate in Katie's name:

The Katie Palmer Project: https://katiepalmerproject.com/

Hagerman National Wildlife Reserve: https://friendsofhagerman.com/Donate/

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As little kids, we are scared of monsters and things that go bump in the night. We hear stories about big scary, hairy creatures that would get you if you weren’t being good. You had to always be aware of your surroundings and, of course, beware stranger danger. We grow up and imagine that bad guys are like the ones in the movies. But what if the monster was nothing like that, what if they were kind and helpful. What if they were your good friend? What if the monster was hiding in plain sight?

Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled "Hiding in Plain Sight: Henry Wallace."

Listener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS
Music/Ep @wetalkofdreams

Sources:
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On September 20th, 2014, dog walker Barbara Denham entered the walled graveyard of St. Margaret of Antioch church in Barking, London. She saw a young man sitting up against the cemetery wall amidst the ruins of the old abbey. As Ms. Denham approached, the young man never reacted or indicated that he heard her or the collie. Hesitantly, she walked over and found that twenty-one-year-old Daniel Whitworth was dead. Ms. Denham immediately phoned the police saying, “I was the same woman that found the other body a few weeks ago. I found another young boy.”

Join Jen and Cam as they talk about how the murderous and lascivious behavior of Stephen Port would go unchecked by authorities. The investigation has been described as "One of the most widespread institutional failures in modern history" In fact, had it not been for the sisters of his last victim, Jack Taylor, he would have likely continued killing.



Thanks to the OTCP team
Listener Discretion by Edward @OctoberpodVHS. You can find him on all your podcast apps or at https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideo

Producer and theme music by Nico Vettese
wetalkofdreams.com

Researched and written by Lauretta Allen

Sources:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3282343/Moment-chef-accused-poisoning-killing-four-gay-men-met-online-appeared-television-alongside-Celebrity-Masterchef-contestants.html?fbclid=IwAR1gy9eEZJSr0MO-gPbH_MedUtt18Vjz8Xnh3WZoT-88jdNeRlNXvQMTZTo

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkohABWOrRE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Port

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-61909143

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Imagine you are a probation officer and you get a phone call that one of your offenders hasn’t checked in with you as of late. Since he is an elderly man in his late 70s, you hope he is ok. It is April 13, 2010, an officer goes to the home to check on him. The officer goes into the home and talks to the man. He then walks about the house to get a look around which is standard. It all looks ok. Located in the back of the home, the officer discovers a room. This room has a giant padlock on the door from the outside. Immediately sensing something is not right, he demands to get into each of the rooms. What authorities would find in the house is what nightmares are made of. It is a scene straight out of one of those haunted houses kids visit on Halloween night, but this was no haunted house, and no one --children or adults --should have to see what was inside.

Join Jen and Cam on this episode of ‘Our True Crime Podcast’ entitled ‘Joseph Naso: His List of Ten.’

Listener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS………………………..
Music and EP is by @wetalkofdreams………………….

Sources:
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****Content Warning****

Cannock Chase is 26 square miles of deciduous and coniferous woodland, open heathland, and small lakes in the West Midlands of England. It's a popular place to go hiking and mountain biking. As beautiful as Cannock Chase is, it has a bit of a dark past.

In the 1960s, children in the area were abducted, assaulted, and murdered; their bodies were discovered later in the dense foliage of Cannock Chase. A human monster was on the loose.

Join Cam and Jen as we discuss The Cannock Chase Murders.

Thanks to the OTCP team
Listener Discretion by Edward @OctoberpodVHS. You can find him on all your podcast apps or at https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideo

Producer and theme music by Nico Vettese
wetalkofdreams.com

Researched and written by Lauretta Allen

Sources:
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He seemed like the perfect man, at first. He wined and dined that special one who caught his eye, at the beginning. He would sweep them off their feet and marry them, quickly. He was after more than marriage, in fact, marriage was just a way to get what he was after. What he was after would cost more than one woman her life. After all, tragic accidents happen but when these tragic accidents happen with the same person at the center of incidents, you have to take a closer look.

Join Jen and Cam on this episode of “Our True Crime Podcast’ entitled Deadly Getaways: Randy Roth.

Listener Discretion is by the smooth voice at the top of the show, Edward October @octoberpodVHS


All our original music is by the talented Nico @wetalkofdreams
We liked him so much, we made him our EP.

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On an unseasonably warm day in August of 1973, while a crowd of around 13,000 fans watched the North Adelaide football team play the Norwood Red Legs at the Adelaide Oval, 11-year-old Joanne Ratcliffe assisted 4-year-old Kirste Gordon to the bathroom. The girls never returned to their seats.

Although there were many witnesses, the girls have never been found. Their disappearance is one of South Australia's best-known crimes.

Join Jen & Cam ass the discuss the case and possible suspects in "Abduction at the Adelaide Oval: Joanne Ratcliffe and Kirste Gordon"

*** Correction!! Jen got one of the suspects' names backward. It should be Arthur Stanley Hart, not Stanley Arthur Hart

A reward of up to $1,000,000 AUD remains on offer to anyone who either provides information leading to the recovery of their remains or information leading to a conviction in the case.

Anyone with information is asked to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000 or at www.crimestopperssa.com.au

Promo from our friend Paige from Reverie True Crime Podcast. Make sure to subscribe!

Thanks to the OTCP team
Listener Discretion by Edward @OctoberpodVHS. You can find him on all your podcast apps or at https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideo

Producer and theme music by Nico Vettese
wetalkofdreams.com

Researched and written by Lauretta Allen

Sources:


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In the summer of 1985, the folks in the small town of Gillespie, Illinois were shaken to their core when 16-year-old Bridget Drobney was found brutally murdered.

Three men were arrested and one, Robert Turner was sentenced to death. In January of 2003, Governor Ryan commuted all 167 of Illinois’ death row inmates to life sentences. One of those was obviously, Robert Turner. Years later, In March of 2011, Governor Pat Quinn would abolish the death penalty in the state of Illinois altogether.

In June of 2022, Turner was able to get a clemency hearing with the help of the Illinois Prison Project. The Illinois Prison Project fights for people serving “unjust, unnecessary and excessive” sentences in Illinois. If you visit their website, it says in big letters they are fighting a “system that treats people as disposable.” And while there are certainly many innocent people serving sentences in Illinois that are serving especially excessive sentences, the Drobney family feels that Robert Turner is not one of them.

Please listen to Jen & Cam as they talk about Bridget Drobney's murder and if you are like us and the Drobney family and feel that Robert Turner does not deserve clemency,
please make your voice heard.

Contact Jennifer Soble, Executive Director of Prison Release Board. Her email is [email protected] The family asks that you state that it is regarding Robert Turner IDOC No N66184.

Special thanks to Paula Lucca for talking with us about Bridget.

Thanks to the OTCP team
Listener Discretion by Edward @OctoberpodVHS. You can find him on all your podcast apps or at https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideo

Producer and theme music by Nico Vettese
wetalkofdreams.com

Researched and written by Rett MacPherson

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The Mafia, the Mob, the family. It has many names but there is only one thing this organization is concerned about: money. This long-standing group has members operating from the streets hustling all the way up to corrupt government officials. In the neighborhoods they run, they are feared by some and adored by others. This family follows a set of rules demanding loyalty to each other above all else, including, well, your own family. To break these laws not only goes against what they stand for but it very well may cost a life or two. Afterall, someone must pay.
Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled ‘Mafia Murder Mystery: Johnny Boy D’Amato.’

Our listener discretion is by the amazing Edward October @octoberpodVHS
Our multi-talented editor does all our music too @wetalkofdreams

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