Tarina gives Nic a new nickname, “Wreck it Mouth.” And Nic congratulates Tarina on saving $2.50 on her “$9.00” coffee shop espresso drinks.

In this episode, Nic and Tarina lead a conversation on what it takes to be a great leader.

Their discussion can be summed up in a simple phrase: “Own it.” Among the attributes and activities of great leaders, here are a few they talk about:

• A leader protects his people
• A leader walks into danger first
• A leader leads with empathy
• A leader is about influence not authority
• A leader lives with the consequences of their decisions

As Nic observes, the construction industry needs good leaders. The hard part to swallow is many are promoted to a leadership position who don’t want the responsibility nor do they have the ability to lead well.

Leadership, as Nic and Tarina share, is a sacred responsibility and an important skill.

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