In this episode, Jer and Tay explore the world of chronic pain and discover the true meaning of 'no pain, no gain.' Spoiler alert: it's a lot of pain and not much gain. 8 million Canadians are living with it. For those who may not be familiar, chronic pain is defined as pain that persists for longer than three months, past the point of typical tissue healing. This can include anything from headaches and back pain to fibromyalgia and rheumatoid arthritis. In this conversation facilitated by Pain BC for their national conference the fellas are joined by Natasha and Virgina to talk about their very different experiences in living with chronic pain.