In Part 2 of Matt’s conversation with WME executive chairman and TKO CEO Ari Emanuel and TKO president Mark Shapiro, they discuss how the NFL's next rights negotiations will influence the entertainment industry, how the UFC ended up with Paramount and why it almost went to Netflix, and Ari’s relationship with the Rock, David Ellison, and Donald Trump (01:35).

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Host: Matt Belloni
Guests: Ari Emanuel and Mark Shapiro

Producers: Craig Horlbeck and Jessie Lopez
Theme Song: Devon Renaldo

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