What should the church learn from Jordan Peterson bread-pilling so many atheists and agnostics? This is session 3 from the Australia conference.

The Day John Anderson's Childhood Ended https://www.sbs.com.au/news/insight/the-day-john-anderson-s-childhood-ended Rebel Wisdom JBP Full Interview https://youtu.be/husJZ2THQdU Hedgehog Review Strange Persistence of Guilt https://hedgehogreview.com/issues/the-post-modern-self/articles/the-strange-persistence-of-guilt 

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Guy has had some interesting conversations with John Vervaeke and Rebel Wisdom recently. You can find his youtube channel here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuhoymQ9glku30sG4qgW-iQ

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David works in radio in Florida and has a website/organization called A Neighbor's Choice. Someone told me he should reach out and talk to me. He wanted to introduce me to Rene Girard so he did. He has interviews with Jordan Peterson and David Bentley Hart on his channel too. Here's our talk.

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Notes from our talkBill Kaufmann author American is a rootless cultureChurch of God AndersonPolitical commentaryWFLA in Orlando 93.1 540 AM Iheart media radio stationNeighbor’s choice God desires mercy not sacrificeProgram for people who are tired of group think, scapegoat ping pongSlaying sacred cowsJesus is the true atheist of our timeThe gods of our time are government, ideology, politics for our salvationImitate the person of Jesus in a tangible way12 Rules for Life, did an interview with Jordan PetersonJordan Peterson is a gateway drug to studying the scripturesFollower of Ron PaulHumans need role models to get them animatedDavid Bentley Hart’s politicsRene GirardThe memetic theoryA way of unifying the social sciences into a unified perspectivePattern by studying the great works of western literatureSlaying the father every time we come to a text. The text has no father.All the great texts have similar patterns. How they show human conflict arising. He saw meaning throughout of it.A triangular nature of desire. Our objects of desire are because our neighbors have themWe desire our neighbor’s being. Human beings are wired to imitate at a level greater than any other speciesChimpanzees will imitate on a basic level. The children would go through the ritual to get the treat. Imitation source of our beauty and evilImitate when it comes to rivalry and envy and jealousyGossip spreads the contagion. Humans were often in conflict over the same person. At some point the object disappears and they become obsessed with one-upping their neighborYou can see it with childhood skirmishes. Loony tunes demonstrates GirardThe Avengers, Superhero stories and movies are a vestige of ancient mythologies+There is the one and the manyWhen you have a community caught up in rivalryTake it out on a third partyPlace the blame on anotherWe can unify through blamePastors are professional scapegoatsScapegoats have a paradoxical insider and outsider statusIf they’re totally different you can’t blame themChannel some of the localness into the sacrificeEating the food of the local community in order to sacrifice them. Mock king sacrifice and then sacrificedThink about the origins of this. There needs to be a way of effectively channeling that imitation in a safe way when it’s necessary. Mark of LamechYou have to find a way to resolve that. An arbitrary difference to make it stand outWe don’t want imitation until we lose our sense of self, why we hate the imitation gameTrumpMaintenance of a sense of order again. When a community kills together and there is catharsis, the power of mementic group thinkThe founding murder of human anthropologySatan was a murderer from the beginning. How can the accuser cast out the accuser.We divinize our victims

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John the Baptist denounces Herod Antipas for marrying his brother's wife and it costs John his head. Why didn't Jesus denounce Herod or Tiberius Caesar for his bloodthirsty corruption or pedophilia? John's behavior was in line with Old Testament prophets like Elijah calling out Ahab and Jezebel but Jesus doesn't seem to do this. This clearly didn't earn Jesus any points with certain factions of 1st Century culture warriors. What was Jesus doing?

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I did a "ThinkClub debate" with Adam and he felt I straw-manned Bret Weinstein in my last video. How IDW unbecoming! So I wanted to go deeper into the challenges I see with what I perceive as Bret Weinstein's naturalism. There seems to be a new dawning among Naturalists that religion is the only competent vehicle that could grapple with the challenges (environmental, social, political, etc.) that we fear will destroy life on this planet. What would such a new religion require? Does naturalism have what it takes to satisfy those religious requirements?

My video on Bret Weinstein's proposal as a new religion. https://youtu.be/ymKC3b83sqo My ThinkClub debate with Adam https://youtu.be/6bZhJ8lMjT4 Unbelievable with Bret Weinstein Pt. 1 https://youtu.be/kRx2uNMJFnU Unbelievable with Bret Weinstein Pt.2 https://youtu.be/Bbw1xjxfL38  Jeff Q Looks for a Spiritual Solution https://youtu.be/yDOqQv6wUg8 Vervaeke Awakening from the Meaning Crisis https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLND1JCRq8Vuh3f0P5qjrSdb5eC1ZfZwWJ Mary Kochan is Vervaeke trying to destroy religion https://youtu.be/W3r8Z9y5UIc Durkheim on Religion http://www.faculty.rsu.edu/users/f/felwell/www/Theorists/Essays/Durkheim2.htm The Metaphysical Club https://amzn.to/30dgFZ4 CS Lewis Miracles https://amzn.to/30ezQ3F Bret on Dax Shepherd Podcast https://armchairexpertpod.com/pods/bret-weinstein A Quality Existence with Vervaeke https://youtu.be/8d2vlpieEH8 Brave New World https://amzn.to/2LGmvJo The Matrix Movie https://amzn.to/34XY7dM Was Calvin a Calvinist? Richard Muller https://wscal.edu/resource-center/was-calvin-a-calvinist 

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Christopher was a student of John Vervaeke, was mentored and in some ways apprenticed by him and now is a collaborator with John on the meaning Crisis work. He agreed to do a video with me and we had a good conversation talking about his life, religion and John Vervaeke's work.

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I've always wondered why there seemed to be so many artists that watch my channel? Garry taught and works in arts and design and shares with me what he thinks.

Conversation notesJordan PetersonMeaning MakingGraphic SymbolismPageau is talking about subject matterThere are a lot of artists that follow and there’s a reason for thatThere’s a formal aspect for that. Interesting content,All these stories are a way to get into the non-physical way of getting at meaningWe don’t know how to really get at that, to define and solidify thoseDesigners and artists pull meaning out of things and imbue meaning into thingsWhen you’re building art and design there are formal elements and principles, things in the phenomenon itself, line, shape, space, color. It’s not subjective. In art design they are making meaning and how they do itRed for sex, passion, romance, lustTweek the meaning of the color with another elementConnect that non-physical thing through the physical thingThey’ve put in more concrete terms something previously felt in an ambiguous wayBook: Ten books that screwed up the world and 5 more that didn’t helpFrancis Schaeffer

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Jeff Q in a previous video raises a number of challenges that humanity faces in the world today and he's challenged me to offer ways in which Christianity addresses those challenges. I very much want to take up this project because I think it is where the rubber hits the road for many people. This is the first of these videos.

Vancouver 1 https://youtu.be/d-Z9EZE8kpo Bret Weinstein on Unbelievable https://youtu.be/kRx2uNMJFnU My commentary on Weinstein on Unbelievable https://youtu.be/ymKC3b83sqo John Vervaeke Relevance Realization https://youtu.be/Yp6F80Nx0lc Steven Pinker and Jordan Peterson Enlightenment https://youtu.be/pBylbB7s5Nw The Age of Addiction https://amzn.to/300octY Democratic Debates and the cult of kindness https://youtu.be/1PHPmZsAA9o Thomas Chalmers Expulsive Power of a new Moral Affection https://www.monergism.com/thethreshold/sdg/Chalmers,%20Thomas%20-%20The%20Exlpulsive%20Power%20of%20a%20New%20Af.pdf Think Club Justin Brierly https://youtu.be/IyXF23WLILU Rodney Stark the Rise of Christianity https://amzn.to/2ZZKTOV Rodney Stark for the Glory of God https://amzn.to/2ZZFB57 Rodney Stark how Christianity conquered Roman cities https://amzn.to/2ZZFB57 

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Jeff and I have been corresponding for a while now. He's from Grand Rapids MI but didn't grow up Dutch Calvinist. He has followed the Jordan Peterson developments but is skeptical that Christianity, or any ancient religion, can address the challenges we face today. This is, in many ways, the same objection that Bret Weinstein and others have raised. I of course disagree. I think Christianity is uniquely suited to address the challenges we face today. Now many might disagree even with how Jeff sees the challenges but I'd like to take this opportunity to in fact talk about what I think Christianity brings to the table.

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Napoleon and Alexander were leaders who changed the world in a very short amount of time but they can't hold a candle to Jesus. Jesus had 3 years of public ministry and was the most influential person in all of human history. Billions of people call him God. How did one man who lived in an obscure backwater of a vassal nation accomplish such a thing? Look what he did with people.

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