Today's episode is a special conversation and recap of Elisabeth Condon and my experiences collaborating as visual artists in the ballet project CounterPointe (now in its 12th year) produced by Norte Maar and staged at the Mark O'Donnell Theater (Brooklyn) in March 2025. Jennifer Coates kindly came on to ask us questions about making props and what it was like for 2 newbies to enter the world of dance. Thanks, Jennifer!

Special thanks also to Norte Maar and its co-directors, Julia K. Gleich and Jason Andrew for their support of artists and creative collaboration.

More information about Elisabeth and Amy's work:

Elisabeth: https://www.elisabethcondon.com/ | @elisabethcondon

Amy: https://www.amytalluto.com/ | @talluts

More information about Julia Gleich and Jason Andrew's NorteMaar & CounterPointe12: https://www.nortemaar.org/projects/counterpointe12

Julia K. Gleich's website: https://www.gleichdances.org/

Julia Gleich interview on this podcast: Episode 49

The dances we discussed:

"Vermillion | 10" by Ava Desiderio and Elisabeth Condon

Dancers: Minami Ando, Lucia Betelu

Support structures: Elise Wunderlich

Music by Zero Eklipse and William Pilarte

Lighting: Evan Spigelman

Mark O'Donnell Theater, Brooklyn, March 2025

"And So It Begins" by Margaret Wiss and Amy Talluto

Dancers: Maya Tsuruki Holden and Jaclyn Kriewall

Music by Margaret Wiss

Lighting: Evan Spigelman

Mark O'Donnell Theater, Brooklyn, March 2025

"46 Gordon" by Julia K. Gleich and Nicole Cherubini

Dancers: Michelle Buckley, Kara Chan, Annie Freeman, Amber Neff, Ethan Schweitzer-Gaslin

Lighting: Evan Spigelman

Mark O'Donnell Theater, Brooklyn, March 2025

Special thanks to Jennifer Coates for interviewing us!

Jennifer's website: https://www.jenniferlcoates.com/

Jennifer on IG: @jennifercoates666

Artists mentioned: Henri Matisse, William Kentridge, Florine Stettheimer, Keisha Prioleau Martin, Meg Lipke, Elana Herzog, Nicole Cherubini, Alvin Ailey, Judith Jamison (Dancer), Julia K. Gleich (Choreographer), Jason Andrew

Dances mentioned: "Afternoon of a Faun" by the Ballet Russes, “Minutiae” (1954) Robert Rauschenberg and Merce Cunningham, "Cry" Alvin Ailey

Video mentioned: "How to Make Theater Props" by Eric Bucklein (not actually old but young) https://youtu.be/JSl5Vc8mej0?si=KWGdOxnijBiEEGZc

Book mentioned: Inigo Philbrick "All That Glitters: A Story of Friendship, Fraud, and Fine Art"

Exhibition mentioned: "Edges of Ailey" at the Whitney

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In this audio essay, I roam from post-war France to the abstract expressionists to the artists of the East Village and even to outer space to consider times in art history when art was forced to bloom in the dark. These under-the-radar moments yielded deeply experimental work, and I wonder how we might channel some of that spirit in our own time.

Artists mentioned: Laurie Anderson, Joan Miro, Jean Dubuffet, Marcel Duchamp, David Wojnarowicz, and Judy Glantzman

Scientists mentioned: Robert H Dicke, Jim Peebles

Jim Peebles interviewed by Alan Lightman for the American Institute of Physics January 19, 1988 Princeton, NJ: https://www.aip.org/history-programs/niels-bohr-library/oral-histories/33957

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I'm offering for you here a new mini ep about what I've been thinking about lately: the wackiness of Meret Oppenheim's titles - and how they expand the mystery of her images rather than explain them. 

I recently snagged the catalog from the Moma retrospective show from last year and highly recommend it if you don't have it yet. It's full of lovely color plates: https://store.moma.org/products/meret-oppenheim-my-exhibition-hardcover But I think cheaper ones are on Amazon?

Here are some images from the exhibition online too: https://www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/5368

Some art news:

Tickets for CounterPointe12, a collaborative art ballet in Brooklyn March 8-9, 2025!

Check out "Mythology/Matriarchy" at the Middle Room Gallery in Los Angeles (Glendale) March 14 - April 27, 2025

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This is Part 2 of Mandolyn Wilson Rosen and my review of "Lifeline: Clyfford Still" 2019 directed by Dennis Scholl. It's a juicy art bio tell-all with a crusty curmudgeon as its talented but embittered subject. Don't forget to listen to Part 1 too!

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Find Mandolyn online at: ⁠https://mandolynwilsonrosen.com⁠ and on IG at ⁠@mandolyn_rosen⁠

Artists mentioned: Philip Guston, Barnett Newman, Jackson Pollock, Willem DeKooning, Frank Stella, Donald Judd, Paul Cezanne, Ad Reinhardt, Mark Rothko, Thomas Hart Benton,

Art Problems Podcast

Thank you, Mandy! Thank you, Listeners!

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Mandolyn Wilson Rosen is back on the podcast! This time, instead of a book we are talking about an artist documentary. The film is called "Lifeline: Clyfford Still" 2019 directed by Dennis Scholl. It's a juicy art bio tell-all with a crusty curmudgeon as its talented but embittered subject. Come along with us as we enter a turbulently Still world.

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Find Mandolyn online at: https://mandolynwilsonrosen.com and on IG at @mandolyn_rosen

Links to the writings we mentioned:

Clyfford Still's "An Open Letter to an Art Critic" on Artforum

https://www.artforum.com/features/an-open-letter-to-an-art-critic-212151/

David Levi Strauss for Brooklyn Rail "From Metaphysics to Invective"

https://brooklynrail.org/2012/05/art/from-metaphysics-to-invective-art-criticism-as-if-it-still-matters/

Seph Rodney for Hyperallergic "Hoping is Not Enough"

https://hyperallergic.com/983414/hoping-is-not-enough/

Artists mentioned: Matthew Barney, Jackson Pollock, Mark Rothko, Barnett Newman, Lois Dodd, Julian Schnabel, Mark Bradford, Julie Mehretu, Frank Stella, Ellsworth Kelly, Michelle Grabner

Writers mentioned: Seph Rodney, Paul Valéry, John Ruskin, Guillaume Apollinaire, John Ruskin, David Levi Strauss, Dore Ashton, Jerry Saltz, Ken Johnson, Clement Greenberg, Emily Dickinson's "'Hope' is the thing with feathers"

Thank you, Mandy! Thank you, Listeners!

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Jennifer Coates is back with me this week to cohost Part 4 of our series about researching our way to feeling better as artists. This time we go all the way back to 1306 to the Mongol empire and then zoom forward to the 1970's in the USSR and with a few more stops in between. We studied hard (and maybe got C minuses) but we ended up feeling inspired and hope you will too.

The artists we spoke about:

Zheng Sixiao of Southern China's Song Dynasty, "Ink Orchid" 1306, during Mongol Empire (Yuan Dynasty) under Kublai

Kasimir Malevich of Russia/USSR, "Black Square" 1915, "Girls in a Field" 1928-30, "Female Worker" 1933, Russian icon paintings

The Bulldozer Exhibition, 15 September 1974 and Oskar Rabin "Lamp and Shawl" 1974 & Lidya Masterkova "Untitled" 1974 of the Leonozovo Group, Photographs by Mikhail Abrosimov/ The Calvert Journal

Read more:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/17/bulldozer-underground-exhibition-revolutionised-russian-art

https://www.edelman.com/insights/bulldozer-exhibition-my-eyewitness-account-russian-repression-6-am

Claude Cahun of Jersey (Channel Islands/France), Partner/Collaborator, Marcel Moore, "I am in training, don't kiss me" 1927, "What do you want from me?" 1929, "Self Portrait" 1939

The Nahua People of the Aztec Empire and the Florentine Codex: https://florentinecodex.getty.edu/ - facilitated by Franciscan Monk, Bernardino de Sahagún, Deep dive into the Codex with Dr. Diana Magaloni Kerpel, Deputy Director, Program Director, and Dr. Virginia Fields Curator of the Art of the Ancient Americas at the LA County Museum of Art (LACMA): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUfg_WQwvMg

Gee's Bend Quilters of Alabama and their organization Souls Grown Deep: https://www.soulsgrowndeep.org/

Other artists mentioned:

Elisabeth Condon, Piet Mondrian

**Disclaimer: As we are not historians by trade, some factual errors may have slipped through. Apologies if so **

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Welcome back, Elisabeth! This time I am very excited to be speaking to Artist, Elisabeth Condon, about one of my favorite Chicago Imagists: Christina Ramberg.

The Art Institute of Chicago recently mounted a retrospective of Ramberg's work and Elisabeth travelled to see the show this past summer. She spent time telling me about her favorite works, but also offered insight into Ramberg's personality and teaching style - as Elisabeth was her student in graduate school at SAIC in the late 80's.

Ramberg is known for her small but tightly-wound acrylic paintings of disembodied women: truncated torsos, legless high heels shoes, floating suits, and body-less corsets, but also produced quilts and a series of satellite paintings shortly before she died at 49 of Pick's disease.

See more images from the Art Institute retrospective here:

⁠https://www.artic.edu/exhibitions/9723/christina-ramberg-a-retrospective⁠

Barry Schwabsky's review in The Nation:

⁠https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/christina-rambergs-public-secrets/⁠

Riva Lehrer AIC Lecture on YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0afNYv3mfqo&t=2812s⁠

Thea Liberty Nichols AIC Lecture on YouTube:

⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0ps_oQnrvs⁠

Julia Fish, Rebecca Shore and Judith Russi Kirshner AIC Panel on YouTube:

⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQzpGJGot-k⁠

Find Artist, Elisabeth Condon online here: https://www.elisabethcondon.com/ and https://www.instagram.com/elisabethcondon/

Ramberg's artworks mentioned: "Untitled" 1980, Satellite Paintings "Untitled 122" 1986, "Istrian River Lady" 1974, "Probed Cinch" 1971, "Troubled Sleeve" 1974, "Bound Hand" 1973, "Untitled Hand" 1975, "Corset/Urns" 1970, "Lola La Lure" 1969, "Cabbage Head" 1968, "Belle Rêve" 1969, Quilt works, and "Satellite" series of the late 80's, Playboy Commission 1972 "Untitled", "Shadow Panel" 1972

Artists mentioned: Paula Modersohn-Becker, Utamaro "Two Girls with a Cricket Box," Jimmy Wright, Phillip Hanson, Jeff Koons, Ed Paschke, Mike Kelly, Erling Sjovold, Jackie Kazarian, Christopher Williams, Maureen P. Sherlock, Lori Gunn (Wirsum), Karl Wirsum, Roger Brown, William Eckhardt Kohler, Karl Kelly, Jackie Saccoccio, Jackie Cheng, Helen O'Leary, Helen O'Toole, Barbara Rossi, Ray Yoshida, Judith Russi Kirshner, Julia Fish, Riva Lehrer, Rebecca Shore

Others noted: Muriel Newman (Collector), Kanye West, Edith Wharton, Corbett VS Dempsey Gallery, Rozsika Parker and Griselda Pollock's "Old Mistresses: Women, Art and Ideology"

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Artist, Jennifer Coates is back for Part 3 in our series about finding artistic resilience through research! This time we look at these artists and how they adapted to their own gloomy times of foreboding:

Kay Sage: Found a way to paint even though she was a victim of domestic violence and ignored by the art world, and used her money to help Surrealist artists flee Germany and France before WWII

Grete Stern: Sneakily slipped in feminist art into a fluffy women's magazine under the Peronist regime

Jacob Lawrence: Illustrated injustices and acts of racism not covered by the history books

Frederic Edwin Church: Painted an emblem that many thought symbolized the coming Civil War

Works mentioned:

Kay Sage works: "This Morning" 1939, "China Eggs" Autobiography, "I Saw Three Cities" 1944, "A Bird in the Room" 1955, "Destiny" a poem

Grete Stern works: "Los Sueños: Muñecos (Dreams: The Doll)" 1949 for Idilio Magazine (Argentina)

Jacob Lawrence works: "The Life of Toussaint Louverture," "Migration" and "Struggle" Series

Frederic Edwin Church works: "Meteor" 1860, with writers/poets: Herman Melville's "The Portent" 1859, Walt Whitman's "Year of Meteors" 1860 and "Crossing Brooklyn Ferry" 1856 (both "Leaves of Grass")

Special thanks to art historian and Senior Curator at the Smithsonian, Eleanor Harvey, for her presentation on the Civil War - from which I got most of my information on the meteor and its effects on the culture then: https://www.youtube.com/live/3r1_xWV1ICU?si=QtC2xKeHq7oHzNfQ

Other artists mentioned: André Breton, Fra Angelico, Piero della Francesca

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What can an artist do during times of political unrest and instability? In this episode (Part 2 of our series), we aim to find out. Jennifer Coates joins me again to share some stories from the past of how artists coped throughout history, because somehow research is very reassuring right now!

We looked at the ways these specific artists reflected and reacted to their time:

Goya: Made his most honest work in secret

Dave Drake: Created signed pottery and poetry and used them to comment on his life and times, even though enslaved

Otto Dix: Painted the horrors of the past in order to warn society against repeating them

Mario Mafai: Documented destruction of housing under Fascism

Felix Nussbaum: Painted even while hiding from the Gestapo

Piet Mondrian: Built a controlled world of harmony and equilibrium to escape to

George Grosz: Openly lampooned everyone in power & the media

Francisco de Goya works: "Goya's Graphic Imagination" exhibition at the Met 2021, "Disasters of War" Etchings 1810-20, "Still Life of a Lambs Head and Flanks" 1812, "The Black Paintings" incl "Saturn Devouring His Son" 1823, "The Dog" 1823, and "Witches Sabbath" 1823

Dave Drake: all examples of stoneware jugs and vessels

Otto Dix works: "The Trench" 1923, "War Cripples" 1920, "The Skull" 1924, "Mealtime in the Trenches" 1924

Mario Mafai works: "Demolition" 1936, "Destruction of the Neighborhoods" 1939

Felix Nussbaum works: "Self-Portrait with Jewish Identity Card" 1943, "Death Triumphant" 1944

Piet Mondrian work: "Tableau 1, Lozenge with Four Lines and Gray" 1926

George Grosz work: "Pillars of Society" 1926

Other artists/movements mentioned: DeStijl Movement, Futurist Movement, Dada Movement, Yves Tanguay

Part 3 is out now!

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Jennifer Coates, friend of the pod, is back to help me consider a new way forward (artwise) after the destabilizing event of the US election. She, herself, is finding comfort in the long history of rocks, geology and the cosmos, while I find myself turning to a book about how Matisse and his daughter, Marguerite, both reacted to the trauma of WWII in opposite yet valid ways. It's a bit of a potpourri, but we promise some great galvanizing art historical quotes and an inspiring double pep talk for the ages. Alternative title of ep: Rock Paper Scissors! Come hang out with us!

Media mentions: The Weekly Show w Jon Stewart (ep with Heather Cox Richardson), Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on IG/Tiktok

Rock mentions: The Makapansgat pebble, Paleo "Venuses," Venus de Willendorf, baetyl stones, "The Living Stones" by Ithell Colquhoun, Paul Cezanne's drawings of Fontainbleu Quarry/MOMA show , John Elderfield and Terry Winters discuss Cezanne's Rock and Quarry Paintings for the Brooklyn Rail ,  "Turning to Stone: Discovering the Subtle Wisdom of Rocks" by Marcia Bjornerud, new minerals elalite and elkinstantonite discovered in 2022 in Somalia from a meteorite

Art mentions:

Cat Balco, Adie Russell, Elisabeth Condon, Pierre Bonnard, Edvard Munch & "White Night" 1900, Dada Movement, Hannah Hoch & “Cut with the Kitchen Knife," Man Ray, "Matisse the Master" by Hilary Spurling, "The Unknown Matisse" by Hilary Spurling, Henri Matisse ”Bathers by a River" 1917 and "The Chapelle du Rosaire de Vence" 1947-51, "Verve Magazine" Issue No 8 Vol 2 (1940), "Les Fleurs de Mal" Baudelaire/Matisse poetry book, Marguerite Matisse, Max Beckmann

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