In this special episode of Marketing Vanguard, Pernod Ricard Chairman and North America CEO Ann Mukherjee and CMO Pamela Forbus highlight the uniqueness and importance of their relationship in the C-suite to drive growth for the spirits company. Mukherjee, herself a decorated former CMO who held that role at Frito-Lay and SC Johnson, brings knowledge of the marketing practice to bear in her role as CEO, knowledge that she and Forbus can center on.

It’s an uncommon cornerstone of experience that can arguably strengthen the marketing priorities of a brand and business—with intentional collaboration. The pair explain their relationship as CEO and CMO while having very different personalities. They’ve even sought out coaching to help understand the other’s working dynamics. “I'm always being pushed to go faster than I want to, but I'm also holding Ann back. Our personality tests and the assessments we took, are sort of our motivations and it helped explain some things,” explains Forbus.

Listen to this special episode to hear the pair talk about more about the importance of creativity being woven into all sides of a business, the role of vulnerability in leadership, and some of the mistakes they’re not afraid to admit they’ve made along the way.

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