In this episode, Tim Pawul - President of Minerals & Royalties Council flips the script and invites Sam Vogel, a minerals investor to come onto the podcast to interview him so he can walk through his personal journey in philanthropy.  During the episode, Tim tells the story of how he and his wife met Bertin Kamuntu in Cape Town South Africa in 2013 and have since set-up the Hope-Joy Kamuntu College Fund.