The Liver King controversy is a perfect case study of why the fitness industry isn't helping anywhere near as many people as it could. 

Beginners and intermediates need to take distinctly differently approaches to improving on chins, although the basic principles remain the same! 

For a special 50th episode, myself and Ian delve into our album recommendations and the order you should listen to them for getting into the most unholy and badass of music genres. Fair warning: this one is long and involved us putting away quite a few beers. 

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Dave is a strength coach and physical therapist who takes a no BS approach to helping lifters get strong and out of pain. He's also a major nerd and strength philosophiser like me!

Fellow sh*t stirrer and training philosopher, Cian O'Brien, pops into the pod for a good old fashioned ramble 

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0:00 Who people used to think ran the page

1:45 How Mark got into training and coaching

6:40 Stuff Mark used to believe 

8:20 How Mark found evidence based fitness

17:35 The difference between being ignorant and malicious 

25:00 How the meme page grew

30:00 The power of memes

38:58 Bad physios and staying within your scope 

44:00 How to improve the industry 

56:45 The conjugate method 

1:04:30 Specificity in training 

1:08:45 When to use variations 

1:13:21 Biggest thing Mark has changed his mind on recently 

1:19:25 What he'd tell his younger self 

1:26:20 Where to contact Mark for coaching