Nat's joined by long time pal of the show, and Sky Sports NFL superstar Phoebe Schecter for an hour of football chat, starting with the shock departure of Franck Reich in Carolina. Ahead of the major Week 13 clash between 49'ers & Eagles, they talk about the brilliance of Nick Siranni, assess other coaches that are having a superb season and discuss what makes a great NFL Head Coach before Phoebe picks the 4 units that have surprised her the most this season - and yes, there's some love for Baker Mayfield!

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