This week, host Rumaan Alam talks to photographers James and Karla Murray, who are on a mission to capture the unique charm of New York City’s storefronts and advocate for small businesses. In the interview, James and Karla explain what it was like to teach themselves the basics of photography while juggling multiple jobs. They also discuss the process of landing their first book deal and starting an Instagram account. 

After the interview, Rumaan and co-host Isaac Butler talk about the small businesses in their own communities that enrich their lives. 

In the exclusive Slate Plus segment, James and Karla explain how neighborhoods can change and evolve responsibly. 

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Podcast production by Cameron Drews. 

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