Garage Grown Gear CEO and co-founder Lloyd "Redundant L" Vogel drops into the studio to talk gear and trail with Doc. Settle in and buckle up as Redundant L and Doc dive deep into a number of topics, including discussions of digital minimalism, Light phones, a wide range of diet choices, pinecone helpers, discovery and awe in unusual places, outdoor industry life cycles, new and upcoming gear, the illusion of dry bags, just items, and both hiking and life hacks. Epic.