Pinterest Coffee Chats

Pinterest Coffee Chats

By Camille KurtenbachBusinessMarketing
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Pinterest Coffee Chats episodes

  • Episode 38: Pinterest Didn’t Take Too Long — We Just Gave It Time A Real Case Study for Business Owners Tired of Social Media

    If you’ve ever said (or thought), “Pinterest takes too long,” this episode is for you. Today, I’m breaking down a real Pinterest case study from the health & wellness space no viral moments, no massive ad spend, and no overnight success stories. This client is a perimenopause nutrition coach and busy mama, helping other busy mamas feel better through food and sustainable habits. After 9 months of organic Pinterest strategy, we layered in a small Pinterest ads test  and the results quietly snowballed into email growth, membership sales, and aligned conversations. This episode is a reminder that Pinterest doesn’t work fast… it works deep. And when you stop treating it like social media and start treating it like a long-term traffic system, everything changes.

     

    What You’ll Learn in This Episode
    • Why “Pinterest takes too long” is the wrong way to think about growth

    • What 9 months of organic Pinterest posting actually builds behind the scenes

    • How a $250 ad test led to clicks, email subscribers, and paid memberships

    • Why patience and refinement matter more than speed on Pinterest

    • How Pinterest supports business owners who are tired of showing up daily on social media

       

      Episode Highlights
      • 9 months of organic Pinterest posting (10–25 saves, 5–10 clicks/month)

      • $69.81 ad spend resulting in 66,000+ impressions

      • One pin driving 842 outbound clicks at ~$0.07 per click

      • 231 new email subscribers in one month

      • New monthly and annual membership sales

      • A real-life example of what “trusting the process” actually looks like

         

        If this episode gave you a lightbulb moment — or sparked a question — I’d love to hear from you.

        💬 DM me on Instagram and tell me:

        • Your biggest takeaway

        • Or the biggest question you have about Pinterest

          Those conversations often inspire future episodes.

           

          🎧 Listen now to Pinterest Coffee Chats wherever you get your podcasts.

          If Pinterest is on your list for 2026 and you want clarity on where to start, explore my Pinterest Strategy Call, Done-With-You Pinterest Support, or Done-For-You Pinterest Management below: 
          → Book a Pinterest Strategy Call
          → Done-With-You Pinterest Support
          → Done-For-You Pinterest Support 
          → Free Guide: How to Turn Pinterest Into a Money-Making Machine
          → Follow me on Instagram
          → Q4 Pinterest Checklist Freebie

          13 min
        • Episode 37: Why Posting More Isn’t the Answer (and What Actually Moves the Needle)

          If you’ve ever felt like the answer to slow growth is posting more, this episode is for you. In this episode of Pinterest Coffee Chats, we’re unpacking why posting more content rarely leads to better results and why so many business owners feel exhausted trying to keep up. The issue usually isn’t consistency, motivation, or effort. It’s where and how your content is placed. This conversation is a gentle but powerful reframe around content, visibility, and sustainability especially for business owners who want marketing that works with real life, not against it.

          You don’t need to post more.
          You need your content to live longer.

          When your content is placed intentionally, it can keep working for your business without requiring constant effort or daily presence.

          In This Episode, We Cover:
          • Why posting more doesn’t automatically lead to more visibility or sales

          • How most platforms are designed around recency, not longevity

          • The difference between publishing content and placing content strategically

          • Why constant posting leads to burnout — even for capable business owners

          • What actually moves the needle when it comes to sustainable marketing

          • How to start thinking about content as infrastructure, not output

            🎧 Listen now to Pinterest Coffee Chats wherever you get your podcasts.

            If Pinterest is on your list for 2026 and you want clarity on where to start, explore my Pinterest Strategy Call, Done-With-You Pinterest Support, or Done-For-You Pinterest Management below: 
            → Book a Pinterest Strategy Call
            → Done-With-You Pinterest Support
            → Done-For-You Pinterest Support 
            → Free Guide: How to Turn Pinterest Into a Money-Making Machine
            → Follow me on Instagram
            → Q4 Pinterest Checklist Freebie

             

            8 min
          • Episode 36: Why Burnout Is a Content Strategy Problem (Not a Time Management Problem)

            If you’ve ever felt exhausted by your own marketing  even when your business is “doing well”  this episode is for you. In this conversation, we’re breaking down why burnout usually isn’t a personal failure or a time management issue, but a sign that your content strategy was never built to support real life. You don’t need another planner. You don’t need more discipline. You need a system that works even when you step away.

             

            In this episode, we talk about:
            • Why most content strategies require constant presence

            • The hidden cost of daily posting and platform-chasing

            • How burnout often comes from strategy design, not effort

            • What sustainable content actually looks like for real business owners

            • How to build visibility that supports your life instead of competing with it

              This episode is especially for busy business owners, moms, and service providers who want their marketing to feel calmer not heavier.

               

              🎧 Listen now to Pinterest Coffee Chats wherever you get your podcasts.

              If Pinterest is on your list for 2026 and you want clarity on where to start, explore my Pinterest Strategy Call, Done-With-You Pinterest Support, or Done-For-You Pinterest Management below: 
              → Book a Pinterest Strategy Call
              → Done-With-You Pinterest Support
              → Done-For-You Pinterest Support 
              → Free Guide: How to Turn Pinterest Into a Money-Making Machine
              → Follow me on Instagram
              → Q4 Pinterest Checklist Freebie

              15 min
            • Episode 35: Why Most Business Content Dies in 24 Hours (and How to Build Content That Keeps Working)

              Most business owners aren’t struggling because they lack good ideas they’re struggling because their content disappears too quickly. In this episode of Pinterest Coffee Chats, we’re talking about why so much business content “dies” within 24 hours and what actually needs to change if you want your marketing to feel lighter, more sustainable, and more effective. This isn’t about posting more or trying harder. It’s about understanding how content is designed to work and choosing platforms and strategies that allow your effort to compound over time.

              In this episode, we cover:
              • Why most platforms reward recency instead of longevity

              • The difference between publishing content and placing content

              • Why great content still underperforms on social media

              • How search-based platforms change the lifespan of your content

              • What it looks like to build content that keeps working long after you hit publish

                If you’ve ever felt frustrated watching good content disappear almost immediately, this episode will help you reframe what’s actually happening  and what to do next.

                🎧 Listen now to Pinterest Coffee Chats wherever you get your podcasts.

                If Pinterest is on your list for 2026 and you want clarity on where to start, explore my Pinterest Strategy Call, Done-With-You Pinterest Support, or Done-For-You Pinterest Management below: 
                → Book a Pinterest Strategy Call
                → Done-With-You Pinterest Support
                → Done-For-You Pinterest Support 
                → Free Guide: How to Turn Pinterest Into a Money-Making Machine
                → Follow me on Instagram
                → Q4 Pinterest Checklist Freebie

                14 min
              • Episode 34: Why Consistency Isn’t About Discipline It’s About Design (or workflow)

                Why Consistency Isn’t About Discipline - It’s About Design or workflows

                If you’ve ever told yourself, “I just need to be more consistent,” I want you to listen to this episode with an open mind because I’m about to flip that belief on its head.

                In today’s episode, I’m talking about why consistency isn’t actually about willpower, motivation, or discipline. It’s about design building systems that support you even when life is busy, messy, or unpredictable. This conversation is especially for business owners who are juggling clients, family, and real life and are tired of feeling guilty for not “keeping up” online.

                In this episode, I talk about: 

                Why discipline eventually fails

                • Why motivation and willpower aren’t sustainable long-term

                • How hustle-based marketing leads to burnout

                • The cost of relying on daily effort to stay visible 

                  What consistency by design really means

                  • Creating systems that work even when you’re offline

                  • Choosing platforms that support long-term visibility

                  • Building workflows that reuse content instead of demanding more

                    How Pinterest supports consistency by design

                    • Why Pinterest doesn’t require daily posting or constant engagement

                    • How keywords and evergreen content do the heavy lifting

                    • What it looks like to batch, schedule, and step away  without disappearing

                       How to design consistency that fits your life

                      • Where you might be relying on discipline instead of structure

                      • Questions to audit your current marketing systems

                      • How to build visibility that supports your energy and season of life

                        The biggest takeaway:

                        If consistency feels hard, it’s probably not a discipline problem it’s a design problem.

                        This episode will help you rethink how you show up in your business and give you permission to build marketing systems that feel sustainable, supportive, and aligned with real life.

                        🎧 Listen now to Pinterest Coffee Chats wherever you get your podcasts.

                        If Pinterest is on your list for 2026 and you want clarity on where to start, explore my Pinterest Strategy Call, Done-With-You Pinterest Support, or Done-For-You Pinterest Management below: 
                        → Book a Pinterest Strategy Call
                        → Done-With-You Pinterest Support
                        → Done-For-You Pinterest Support 
                        → Free Guide: How to Turn Pinterest Into a Money-Making Machine
                        → Follow me on Instagram
                        → Q4 Pinterest Checklist Freebie

                        16 min
                      • Episode 33: The Difference Between Traffic, Attention, and Sales

                        The Difference Between Traffic, Attention, and Sales (And Why Confusing Them Is Costing You Money)

                        If you’ve ever felt like you’re doing all the right things posting consistently, showing up on social media, getting likes and views but still not seeing the sales or growth you want… this episode is for you.

                        Today, I’m breaking down something I see business owners mix up all the time: attention, traffic, and sales. They are notthe same thing and when we treat them like they are, marketing starts to feel exhausting and ineffective.

                        In this episode, I’m walking you through how each one actually works, why attention alone won’t grow your business, and how platforms like Pinterest fit into a smarter, more sustainable strategy.

                        In this episode, I cover:

                        What “attention” really is:

                        • Likes, views, comments, shares, and story replies

                        • Why attention feels validating but doesn’t always lead to action

                        • The limitations of attention-based platforms

                          What traffic actually means:

                          • Clicks to your website, blog, podcast, or offers

                          • Why traffic shows intent, not just interest

                          • The difference between social traffic and search-based traffic 

                            Why traffic doesn’t automatically equal sales:

                            • The role of funnels, freebies, and nurture sequences

                            • Why clarity matters more than volume

                            • Where most business owners lose people after the click

                              Where Pinterest fits into all of this:

                              • Why Pinterest is a search engine, not social media

                              • How Pinterest traffic is cold but intentional

                              • Why evergreen content creates long-term opportunities 

                                The biggest takeaway:

                                Attention builds awareness.

                                Traffic creates opportunity.

                                Sales come from clarity and connection.

                                If you’ve been chasing engagement but still feeling stuck, this episode will help you rethink your strategy and focus on what actually moves the needle.

                                🎧 Listen now to Pinterest Coffee Chats wherever you get your podcasts.

                                If Pinterest is on your list for 2026 and you want clarity on where to start, explore my Pinterest Strategy Call, Done-With-You Pinterest Support, or Done-For-You Pinterest Management below: 
                                → Book a Pinterest Strategy Call
                                → Done-With-You Pinterest Support
                                → Done-For-You Pinterest Support 
                                → Free Guide: How to Turn Pinterest Into a Money-Making Machine
                                → Follow me on Instagram
                                → Q4 Pinterest Checklist Freebie

                                19 min
                              • Episode 32: Pinterest Predicts 2026 Breaking Down the Top Trends & What They Mean for Your Business

                                In this week’s episode of Pinterest Coffee Chats, we’re diving into one of my favorite yearly resources: Pinterest Predicts Pinterest’s official trend forecast based on billions of user searches. Unlike traditional “what’s trending now” lists, Pinterest Predicts gives you a look ahead at what your audience will be searching for in the coming year. And historically, Pinterest has been right over 80% of the time… which is wild. This makes it one of the most powerful tools you can use to plan content, freebies, digital products, and offers especially if you want long-term, search-based visibility instead of chasing the daily social media grind.

                                https://business.pinterest.com/pinterest-predicts/

                                Inside this episode, we walk through:
                                • What Pinterest Predicts actually is - A data-backed forecast created from real user behavior not guesses.
                                • Why these insights matter for your business -Because Pinterest is a search engine, and search-based platforms reward early creators. When you show up before a trend peaks… you get more visibility, more saves, more clicks, and more long-term traffic.
                                • A breakdown of the top 21 trends Pinterest revealed And more importantly what those trends actually mean for your content strategy as a business owner. Plus, I share real examples of how my clients align their content with upcoming trends without reinventing the wheel or creating from scratch.
                                • How to use trend data the simple way- This episode also gives you a super easy workflow for bringing trends into your existing content:
                                  1. Pick 1–2 trend themes that naturally fit your niche

                                  2. Update a freebie, blog, or product to match those themes

                                  3. Create 3–5 pins using keywords tied to predicted search terms

                                  4. Schedule them ahead of peak season

                                    These small steps make a big difference in long-term visibility.

                                    📌 Quick Action Questions:

                                    Use these after you listen to spark ideas:

                                    • Which Pinterest Predicts trends align with your audience?

                                    • Do any of your freebies, blogs, or offers already match these themes?

                                    • What content could you refresh instead of recreating?

                                    • Which trend could you create 3–5 pins for this month?

                                      🎧 Listen now to: Pinterest Predicts 2026 — What It Means for Your Business & How to Use It
                                      Wherever you tune into podcasts!

                                      ✨ If Pinterest is on your list for 2026 and you want clarity on where to start, explore my Pinterest Strategy Call, Done-With-You Pinterest Support, or Done-For-You Pinterest Management below: 
                                      → Book a Pinterest Strategy Call
                                      → Done-With-You Pinterest Support
                                      → Done-For-You Pinterest Support 
                                      → Free Guide: How to Turn Pinterest Into a Money-Making Machine
                                      → Follow me on Instagram
                                      → Q4 Pinterest Checklist Freebie

                                      22 min
                                    • Episode 31: What Worked and What Didn’t: Pinterest Trends I Saw in 2025

                                      In this episode, I’m breaking down the biggest Pinterest lessons from 2025 what actually worked, what didn’t, and what will matter most as we step into 2026. You’ll hear insights pulled from industry experts, real client data, and trends I watched unfold across dozens of business owners this year.

                                      Spoiler alert: the accounts with clarity and strategy grew and the ones guessing their way through it? Not so much.

                                      Inside this episode, we’ll cover:
                                      -The top Pinterest strategies that performed strongest in 2025
                                      -The biggest mistakes DIYers made (and how to avoid them)
                                      -Why some accounts grew while others stalled completely -What business owners misunderstood about Pinterest this year
                                      -The simple shifts that will matter most in 2026
                                      -A real client success story from my Done-With-You program — and how strategy turned into quick, sustainable results

                                      Whether Pinterest is new to you or you’ve been dabbling for a while, this episode will give you clarity, confidence, and a roadmap for using Pinterest intentionally in the new year.

                                      ✨ If Pinterest is on your list for 2026 and you want clarity on where to start, explore my Pinterest Strategy Call, Done-With-You Pinterest Support, or Done-For-You Pinterest Management below: 
                                      → Book a Pinterest Strategy Call
                                      → Done-With-You Pinterest Support
                                      → Done-For-You Pinterest Support 
                                      → Free Guide: How to Turn Pinterest Into a Money-Making Machine
                                      → Follow me on Instagram
                                      → Q4 Pinterest Checklist Freebie

                                      19 min
                                    • Episode 30: Are Your Freebies & Digital Products Working for You or Gathering Dust?

                                      Why Freebies + Digital Products Matter

                                      Your freebies and low-ticket offers are more than “nice-to-have”  they’re the very beginning of your sales funnel.
                                      They help you:

                                      • Build trust
                                      • Grow your email list
                                      • Create momentum
                                      • Move people toward your paid offers
                                      • But… they only work if people can find them. “A freebie without visibility isn’t a funnel — it’s a secret.”

                                        5 Common Mistakes Business Owners Make With Freebies

                                        Here are the exact mistakes we walk through in the episode — written out clearly so you can check your own offers:

                                        1. Freebies that are too generic

                                        Examples:
                                        ❌ “Self-care checklist”
                                        ❌ “5 healthy habits”

                                        Specificity is what converts.
                                        Try:
                                        ✔ “5-Minute Nervous System Reset for Stressed-Out Moms”
                                        ✔ “3 Lunchbox Ideas for Picky Eaters (Nutritionist-Approved)”

                                        2. Too many unrelated freebies

                                        When every freebie leads people in a different direction, your funnel scatters instead of guiding.

                                        Pick ONE clear path for your audience to follow.

                                        3. Relying only on Instagram or TikTok

                                        Traffic from social media dies in hours.
                                        Traffic from search-based platforms (like Pinterest) lasts for months… even years.

                                        If your freebie only lives on Instagram, you’re missing 90% of your potential reach.

                                        4. Not linking your freebie consistently

                                        Your freebie should be listed in:

                                        • Blogs
                                        • Podcast descriptions
                                        • Pinterest pins
                                        • IG highlights
                                        • Your weekly emails
                                        • Website homepage
                                        • If people never see it, they can’t join your world.

                                          5. No clear next step

                                          A freebie should naturally guide people to:
                                          → A low-ticket offer
                                          → A workshop
                                          → A discovery call
                                          → A high-ticket service
                                          → A nurture sequence

                                          If there’s no “what’s next,” your funnel stops instead of flowing.

                                          How Pinterest Amplifies Your Freebies & Products

                                          Pinterest is the perfect place to grow your freebies because people are already searching for solutions.

                                          Pinterest users type in things like:
                                          “meal planning guide”
                                          “holiday stress checklist”
                                          “business organization printable”
                                          “gut health freebie”

                                          And when your pin meets their search?
                                          Boom.... long-term traffic.

                                          Pinterest allows:

                                          • Cold but intentional traffic
                                          • Evergreen visibility
                                          • Pins that drive leads for months
                                          • A simple workflow that looks like:
                                            Pin → Freebie → Nurture Sequence → Paid Offer
                                          • You don’t need more content.
                                            You need more visibility for the content you already created.

                                            Reflection Questions (Use These as Your Homework This Week)

                                            These questions are exactly what I walk listeners through in the episode — and I’m listing them here so you can easily refer back:

                                            1. Do you have at least one clear, niche-specific freebie or digital product?

                                            Not something general — something that speaks directly to your ideal client’s problem.

                                            2. Does your freebie lead to the next logical step in your funnel?

                                            If someone opts in, where do they go next?

                                            3. Where is your freebie currently visible?

                                            If the answer is “Instagram only”… it’s time to expand.

                                            4. Could Pinterest help more people discover your freebie?

                                            Spoiler: yes. Absolutely.

                                            5. Are you promoting your freebie regularly?

                                            Or did you post it once and hope for the best?

                                            Freebies and digital products are powerful but only when they’re:
                                            ✨ specific
                                            ✨ visible
                                            ✨ connected to your bigger offers

                                            Choose ONE freebie or digital product this week and give it a refresh, a purpose, and a visibility plan.

                                            And don’t forget —the episode before this features an incredible digital product expert who’s going to help you refine what you created and increase conversions.

                                            Slide in my DMs with any questions! 

                                             Resources & Links Mentioned in This Episode:
                                            → Book a Pinterest Strategy Call
                                            → Done-With-You Pinterest Support
                                            → Done-For-You Pinterest Support 
                                            → Free Guide: How to Turn Pinterest Into a Money-Making Machine
                                            → Follow me on Instagram
                                            → Q4 Pinterest Checklist Freebie
                                            → https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-vitality-formula/id1837130396

                                            22 min
                                          • Episode 29: Turning Digital Products Into Clients with Guest Expert Jillian

                                            This week on Pinterest Coffee Chats, we have our very first guest episode and trust me, you’re going to fall in love with this conversation. I’m joined by Jillian, a foster mom living in Honduras who has built a full-time business through the power of digital products. She has turned 64% of her Instagram audience into paying clients, and now she teaches other business owners how to create and launch digital products that actually convert.

                                            Inside this episode, we dig into:
                                            ✨ What makes digital products work (and why so many offers flop) Jillian breaks down how she approaches creating products that people actually buy  and the mistakes most business owners are making without realizing it.
                                            ✨ How she turned IG followers into customers at a 64% conversion rate This part alone will change the way you think about your audience and your content.
                                            ✨ Why digital products + Pinterest are a dream combo Hint: Pinterest users are already searching for solutions. Pair that with a low-ticket offer or evergreen freebie? Magic.
                                            ✨ The power of simplicity in your offers You don’t need a massive course or a 40-page workbook. Jillian talks about the shift toward “micro offers” and why less really is more.
                                            ✨ Why digital products matter for every niche Whether you’re in wellness, parenting, food, coaching, or lifestyle  digital products create scalability, passive nurture, and easier pathways into your higher-ticket services.

                                            Your Takeaway Checklist Want to start prepping your digital product strategy?
                                            Start here:
                                            ✔ A clear problem your audience is already asking you about
                                            ✔ One small, simple solution you can deliver quickly
                                            ✔ A landing page that clearly explains the transformation
                                            ✔ A nurture sequence or follow-up path
                                            ✔ A Pinterest strategy to drive evergreen traffic
                                            ✔ A plan to repurpose your sales content into multiple platforms

                                            Connect With Jillian on IG 

                                             Resources & Links Mentioned in This Episode:
                                            → Book a Pinterest Strategy Call
                                            → Done-With-You Pinterest Support
                                            → Done-For-You Pinterest Support 
                                            → Free Guide: How to Turn Pinterest Into a Money-Making Machine
                                            → Follow me on Instagram
                                            → Q4 Pinterest Checklist Freebie

                                             

                                            28 min

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