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This week we are joined by pioneer award winner Karyl Dronen of the newly crowned historic herd Body Shops.  Karyl has bred some of the most influential oberhasli in the breed and some pretty special nigerian dwarf goats as well.  She is one of the newest recipients of the Pioneer award handed out by ADGA and her herd name was set in the history books as a historic herd as well this year.  Listen in to her life experiences the cherry pie days and so much more. 

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