REAL PODCAST STARTS AT ABOUT 07:00, everything before that is bullshit chat.

We talk you through how we like to plan out projects (or don't). Sit with us in a sort of ASMR, fly on the wall type way as we plan what we want to work on for the rest of the year.

We try to give our chaotic lives a loose structure. Which doesn't always work.

Expect: pros and cons of planning, what we think of ultra long term planning, how we choose projects to work on, finding our rhythm, and more rambles!

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