In Our Time: Philosophy

Plato's Gorgias

11.25.2021 - By BBC Radio 4Play

Download our free app to listen on your phone

Download on the App StoreGet it on Google Play

Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss one of Plato's most striking dialogues, in which he addresses the real nature of power and freedom, and the relationship between pleasure and true self-interest. As he tests these ideas, Plato creates powerful speeches, notably from Callicles who claims that laws of nature trump man-made laws, that might is right, and that rules are made by weak people to constrain the strong in defiance of what is natural and proper. Gorgias is arguably the most personal of all of Plato's dialogues, with its hints of a simmering fury at the system in Athens that put his mentor Socrates to death, and where rhetoric held too much sway over people. With Angie Hobbs

Professor of the Public Understanding of Philosophy at the University of Sheffield Frisbee Sheffield

University Lecturer in Classics and Fellow of Downing College, University of Cambridge And Fiona Leigh

Associate Professor in the Department of Philosophy at University College London Producer: Simon Tillotson

More episodes from In Our Time: Philosophy