The public service, and the neutrality of its leaders, has become a recent issue. In this episode, Drs Oliver Hartwich and Michael Johnston discuss New Zealand's public service, how it is run, and the importance of public servants being impartial and objective in their work.

Drawing on Germany's example, they look at how public servants can be highly professional and skilled, and still work for the government of the day without showing bias, to ensure a neutral and effective public service that serves all its citizens.