Senior Fellow Jonathan Stromseth interviews Bilahari Kausikan, the former permanent secretary of Singapore's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, on a range of current diplomatic and security issues in Southeast Asia, including Singapore's role in the region, China's rise, and the Trump administration's approach to foreign policy. Subscribe to Brookings podcasts here or on Apple Podcasts, send feedback email to [email protected], and follow us and tweet us at @policypodcasts on Twitter. The Brookings Cafeteria is a part of the Brookings Podcast Network.