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British artist Mark Leckey — creator of famed club culture docu-hallucination, Fiorucci Made Me Hardcore (1999), winner of the 2008 Turner Prize, and longtime NTS Radio host — discusses the terms of art-making in our technological present and our increasingly medieval relationship to representation. His show “3 Songs from the Liver” was on view at Gladstone Gallery, NY, Nov 2024 - Feb 2025.

“AI outputs are not “images” as we know them. And if we try to understand them in that way, then we’re really…. f*cked, you know?”

Following this conversation, keep listening for “Enter Through Medieval Wounds” a radio play by Mark Leckey, which first appeared in essay form in Heavy Traffic V (Fall 2024).

For more:

https://markleckey.com

https://www.nts.live/shows/mark-leckey

https://www.gladstonegallery.com/exhibition/13694/3-songs-from-the-liver/installation-views

Episode image adapted from Mark Leckey, "Carry Me into The Wilderness" (Icon), 2022