The legal ops profession has gained a reputation for being the scrappy, “make it happen” role within a legal team. This can have a major impact on small legal departments. In this episode of CLOC Talk, we explore challenges, opportunities, and advice for Legal Ops leads on demonstrating value. Join host Jenn McCarron in conversation with Stephanie Sciullo, Vice President & Chief Legal Officer at MSA Safety and Mateo Sanchez, Legal Operations Specialist at Clorox as they discuss inspirations, failures, and wins while driving change in their small legal teams.