“What we bring is really a deeper understanding of out of awareness behavior. Why don’t people do what is so logical, so rational? Why do they sabotage themselves? Why are executives self-destructive? Why do they suffer from hubris? Why do most executive teams not work very well? What are the dynamics going on in the group?”

Description: Dr. Steven Rolfe welcomes Manfred Kets de Vries, Distinguished Clinical Professor of Leadership Development and Organizational Change and the Raoul de Vitry d'Avaucourt Chaired Professor of Leadership Development, Emeritus, at INSEAD. Bringing to bear his knowledge and experience of economics, management, and psychoanalysis, he scrutinizes the interface between international management, psychoanalysis, psychotherapy and dynamic psychiatry. Manfred is the founder of The Challenge of Leadership executive program at INSEAD and founder of INSEAD’s Global Leadership Centre. The Financial Times, Le Capital and The Economist rated Manfred Kets de Vries as one of the world’s top fifty leading management thinkers, as well as one of the most influential contributors to human resource management. He is the author, co-author or editor of forty-nine books and has published over 400 papers as articles or chapters in books. His books and articles have been  translated into more than thirty languages.

Key takeaways:

[3:17] Manfred Kets de Vries talks about his background.

[6:05] Manfred Kets de Vries talks about his initial interest in psychoanalysis and how it affected his interest in leadership.

[11:15] Choosing the first supervisor.

[12:28] Manfred Kets de Vries first patient was an entrepreneur.

[14:21] Teaching psychology and management

[15:21] Starting a seminar for senior executives.

[16:23] Manfred Kets de Vries wonders what can he do to create best places to work.

[17:24] Getting involved in psychoanalysis.

[20:15] Calling on psychoanalysts to pay attention to the world of work.

[20:47] The focus often is on structures and systems because people are unpredictable.

[22:20] The clinical paradigm.

[25:45] The shadow side of leadership; when leaders become destructive and abusive.

[29:05] How easily the darker side of leadership emerges.

[30:36] Political expediency in the Trump administration.

[33:42] What the psychoanalyst brings to the understanding of leaders and organizations.

[35:45] Helping people to become reflective leaders.

Mentioned in this episode:

IPA Off the Couch www.ipaoffthecouch.org

Down the Rabbit Hole of Leadership: Leadership Pathology in Everyday Life, Manfred Kets de Vries

Recommended Readings:

Kets de Vries (2019)  Down the Rabbit Hole of Leadership, Palgrave Macmillan

Kets de Vries and Carlock (2007) Family Business on the Couch, John Wiley and Sons, Ltd

Kets de Vries (2006)The Leader on the Couch, Jossey-Bass

Kets de Vries (2001) Struggling with the Demon, Psychosocial Press, IUP.

Kets de Vries and Miller (1984) The Neurotic Organization, Jossey-Bass

“We learned that the secure attachment was predicted by the warmth of your childhood - that people who had warmer relationships with parents were more likely to have warmer and more securely attached relationships with their spouses in their eighties. Now that is no surprise to us psychoanalysts, but to demonstrate that empirically over the span of 60 years is kind of extraordinary.”

Description: Harvey Schwartz welcomes Dr. Robert Waldinger, a professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School and the Director of the Center for Psychodynamic Therapy at the Massachusetts General Hospital. He directs the Harvard Study of Adult Development, the longest study on adult life ever conducted and this is the subject of our conversation today. His publications include many papers on the early life predictors of adult health and wellbeing.

Dr. Waldinger is a graduate of the Boston Psychoanalytic Institute and he teaches psychodynamic psychotherapy to psychiatry residents and he is also in private practice in Massachusetts. Dr. Waldinger is also a Zen priest and teaches Zen throughout New England. His Ted Talk about the Harvard study has more than 28 million views and is one of the most-watched Ted Talks of all time.

As you will hear in our conversation today, the findings that Dr. Waldinger and his team have learned over the past 80 years, reaffirm many familiar psychoanalytic principles, but what they add most remarkably is the empirical data to support them.

Key takeaways:

[3:45] Lifelong follow up.

[4:12] Dr. Waldinger talks about the history of the Harvard Study of Adult Development.

[7:13] The program now.

[9:13] Internal and external information.

[10:30] What has Dr. Waldinger found out?

[11:09] The quality of people’s relationships as a predictor how well they grow old.

[12:48] Measuring marital satisfaction and meaningful connections.

[13:40] Adult attachment interview.

[15:46] Maturation of defense mechanisms.

[16:44] People get happier as they get older.

[19:07] How did Dr. Waldinger become a different analyst through working in the program?

[21:14] The impact on the participants of the program.

[24:55] Having more data than can ever be analyzed.

[25:18] What lead Dr. Waldinger to run this program?

[26:45] Becoming a Zen priest.

[28:00] The skill of close observation.

[29:12] Beginning to write a book about the outcomes of Harvard Study of Adult Development.

Mentioned in this episode:

IPA Off the Couch www.ipaoffthecouch.org

Recommended Readings:

Waldinger RJ, Schulz MS. Facing the music or burying our heads in the sand?: Adaptive emotion regulation in mid- and late-life.  Research in Human Development, 2010.

Waldinger RJ, Cohen S, Schulz MS, Crowell JA. Security of attachment to spouses in late life: Concurrent and prospective links with cognitive and emotional wellbeing. Clinical Psychological Science, 2014.

Waldinger RJ, Schulz MS. The long reach of nurturing family environments: Links with midlife emotion-regulatory styles and late-life security in intimate relationships. Psychological Science, 2016.

Robert Waldinger TED talk

“In this kind of unconscious process particularly  I think what happens is that the groups use unconscious defense mechanisms, such as denial, splitting, idealization or repression, and  we need to help the manager and the group  tolerate the anxiety and face the facts.”

Description: Steven Rolfe welcomes Dr. Anna Krantz. Anna is a psychoanalyst and a psychologist in private practice in Stockholm Sweden. She began her work consulting to organizations in the late 1990s and early 2000s when, after working to improve selection and hiring processes in organizations, she introduced employee assistance programs and critical incident management to the Swedish market. Her more recent experience, which we will hear more about presently, is in conjunction with Saint Luke’s in Stockholm where her interest is in helping leaders and teams function more productively and effectively. She advocates paying close attention to unacknowledged and unconscious dynamic factors in groups that interfere with the groups’ optimal functioning.

Key takeaways:

[3:13] Anna talks about her practice.

[4:41] How Anna became interested in organizational work.

[7:04] The story of Saint Luke’s non-profit organization.

[8:19] The organization’s profile.

[9:35] The kinds of organizations that Dr. Anna Krantz works with and how she does it.

[10:49] The importance of working along with a coworker.

[11:47] The nuances of working together with non-analyst consultants and with an organization.

[12:29]  How groups work on an unconscious level.

[14:21] Different unconscious processes in groups.

[15:37] Including the feedback from someone outside the process.

[17:49] Getting to the core of the problems in an organization.

[18:30] Case example.

[23:41] The importance of psychological safety in workgroups.

[26:24] Groups perform better under psychological safety.

[27:57] Future trends for consulting work from an analytic perspective:  Neuro-Psychoanalysis.

[30:19] Becoming engaged in the biological reality.

Mentioned in this episode:

IPA Off the Couch www.ipaoffthecouch.org

Recommended Readings:

Bion, Wilfred. R. 1961. Experiences in groups, Tavistock Publications Limited

Edmondson, Amy C. 2018. The fearless organization: Creating psychological safety in the workplace for learning, innovation and growth,

Feldman Barrett, Lisa. 2017. How emotions are made: The secret life of the brain, Houghton Mifflin

Gabriel, Yannis. 2016.Organizations in Depth, Sage Publications, Ltd.

Parker Follett, Mary. 2013. Freedom and Co-ordination: Lectures in Business Organization (1926-1933), Routledge

Solms, Mark 2015. The feeling brain: Selected papers on Neuropsychoanalysis< Karnac Books, Ltd.

“Psychoanalytic ideas deserve to have continuous days in the sun.”

Description: Harvey Schwartz welcomes Tracy Morgan and Anna Fishzon. Trace Morgan is a psychoanalyst in private practice in NYC and works with individuals, couples, and groups. She is the founder, editor, and host of the award-winning podcast New Books in Psychoanalysis and serves on the faculty of the Center for Modern Psychoanalytic Studies. Anna Fishzon is a licensed psychoanalyst. She practices in New York and is an advanced candidate at the Institute of Psychoanalytic Training and Research. For ten years she taught interdisciplinary courses on a broad range of topics, including Russian History, Psychoanalysis, literature and gender, and sexuality at Williams College, Columbia University and Duke University. She is the author of Fandom,Authenticity,and Opera: Mad Acts and Letter Scenes in Fin-de-Siècle Russia. Anna is co-editing The Queerness of Childhood: Essays from the Other Side of the Looking Glass. She is the co-host of the podcast New Books in Psychoanalysis and co-editor of The Candidate Journal, Psychoanalytic Currents.

As you will hear in today’s interview, these are two thoughtful analysts who are intrigued by the subject of analysis, each from somewhat different perspectives. They deeply engage the authors that they interview on the podcast New Books in Psychoanalysis.

Key takeaways:

[4:45] Letting the community know what analysts do.

[5:18] How New Books in Psychoanalysis communicates with the community.

[10:03] Becoming more clinically focused.

[11:04] The theory vs the application.

[13:15] Psychoanalytic theory as a teaching of how to live.

[13:50] Listening with respect.

[14:55] How being an analyst impacts the work of interviewing authors.

[18:43] Different versions of transference.

[19:33] The mechanics of the podcast

[20:52] How Tracy and Anna would like to see the podcast grow in the near future

[23:27] Harvey’s opinion about the practical and theoretical balance in New Books in Psychoanalysis podcast.

[25:02] Practicing psychoanalysis in isolated areas.

[26:44] Tracy and Anna talk about their background that led them into psychoanalysis.

Mentioned in this episode:

IPA Off the Couch www.ipaoffthecouch.org

Recommended Readings:

https://www.amazon.com/Fandom-Authenticity-Opera-Fin-Si%C3%A8cle-ebook/dp/B00FJYJX5A/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1565983485&sr=8-2

https://www.versobooks.com/blogs/1668-there-can-be-no-crisis-of-psychoanalysis-jacques-lacan-interviewed-in-1974

https://newbooksnetwork.com/category/science-technology/psychoanalysis/

http://www.bgsp.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Liegner-E-The-First-Interview-In-Modern Psychoanalysis.pdftra

“The background for this is actually seeing psychoanalytic principles as a basic science in thinking about how do we help people. For me, this combination of curiosity, justice, equality and alleviating suffering came together in a very powerful way around this work.”

Description: Harvey Schwartz welcomes Dr. Steven Marans, who is a child and adult psychoanalyst at the Yale School of Medicine. He is the Harris Professor of Child Psychoanalysis, Professor of Psychiatry and Director of the Childhood Violent Trauma Center at the Yale Child Study Center.

Dr. Marans has devoted much of his career to developing and implementing psychoanalytically informed responses to children, families and communities traumatized by violent and catastrophic events including mass casualty school shootings and natural disasters. He has developed model approaches to enhance developmentally informed police practices and police mental health collaborative approaches to those impacted by traumatic events. He is the co-developer of an early brief evidence-based treatment that has been demonstrated to interrupt and prevent the development of PTSD. This intervention model continues to be widely implemented in the United States and abroad. Additionally, Dr. Marans has consulted extensively with local state and federal leaders as well as news media regarding policy and practices to best address child trauma.

As you will hear in today’s interview, Dr. Marans has immersed himself in the developmental processes that are affected by trauma and he has developed these interventions that can be life-changing for affected children, families and communities.

Key takeaways:

[4:35] Dr. Marans talk about his program’s vision.

[8:23] Working with the police department.

[12:01] Child development Policing Program.

[13:16] Dr. Marans shares an example of his team’s intervention along with the police.

[20:04] Playing a part in both the family system and the individual psychology of a child.

[20:35] Helping families to find the source of their distress.

[21:10] Child and parent speaking the same language.

[21:55] Increasing the self-observing capacity is one of the keys to recovery.

[22:41] Child and parent learning to help each other.

[23:35] Assessment tool.

[25:11] The importance of the role of the parent as a mediator.

[25:52] When an entire community is impacted by a catastrophic event.

[30:13] What brought Dr. Steven Marans to this field.

[33:38] When you feel helpless the natural response is to turn away.

[34:38] The critical role of cops: a benign, gentle and listening authority.

Mentioned in this episode:

IPA Off the Couch www.ipaoffthecouch.org

Recommended Readings:

Marans, S (2013). Phenomena of childhood trauma and expanding approaches to early intervention.International Journal of Applied Psychoanalytic Studies 10(3): 247-266

Marans. S. (2005). Listening to fear: From nightmares to the nightly news.

NY: Henry Holt and Co.

Marans, S. (1996). Psychoanalysis on the beat: Children, police and urban trauma.

Psychoanalytic Study of the Child, Vol 51: 522-541

https://medicine.yale.edu/childstudy/communitypartnerships/cvtc/

“Especially now in business, what’s valued in leadership are the soft skills, not the dictatorial, top-down command and control. This is a time when analysts can be extremely valuable in the business world”

Description: Dr. Steven Rolfe welcomes Dr. Lisa Rosof from the Emory University Psychoanalytic Institute in Atlanta. Dr.  Rosof is a board-certified psychiatrist and fellow of the American Board of Psychoanalysis. She was a practicing attorney and member of the California Bar before attending medical school at the University of Connecticut School of Medicine. She completed her psychoanalytic training at Emory. She is a psychiatrist and psychoanalyst in private practice in Atlanta and an adjunct assistant professor at Emory University Department of Psychiatry. Dr. Rosof has provided executive coaching to MBA students at the Goizueta Business School through the leadership coaching fellows program. Most recently she contributed as a faculty member in the Emory Diploma Program in Executive Coaching. Dr.  Rosof is a faculty member of the Emory Psychoanalytic Institute where she has taught analytic writing, technique, and dreams. She is an inactive member of the California Bar.

During this episode, Dr. Lisa Rosof talks about the analytically oriented program in executive coaching that has been developed at Emory. This is believed to be the first psychoanalytically oriented executive coaching program developed by an analytic institute in conjunction with a business school.

Key takeaways:

[3:05] Dr. Lisa Rosof talks about the Emory Institute and the analytically oriented program and executive coaching.

[5:04] Initial connection with Goizueta.

[7:49] The idea of teaching future business leaders about Emotional Intelligence.

[8:19] Two different programs.

[9:18] Teaching critical coaching skills.

[10:47] Example of how they work with 2nd year MBA students.

[12:02] Funding sources.

[13:17] The Emory Diploma Program in Executive Coaching.

[14:57] The structure of the program is both didactic and experiential.

[16:25] A multidisciplinary approach.

[18:46] Making analytic thinking come alive in a business school.

[22:21] Reactions from the students that participated in the program.

[23:39] The profile of participants in the program.

[24:31] The future of the program.

[27:25] Advice to others considering  developing this kind of program for their institutes.

Mentioned in this episode:

IPA Off the Couch www.ipaoffthecouch.org

Recommended Readings:

Balint, M. (1968) The Doctor, his Patient and the Illness. 2nd Edition. London: Pitman Paperbacks.

Sandler, C. (2011). Executive Coaching A Psychodynamic Approach. Berkshire: Open University Press.

Zaleznik, A. (2009) Executive's Guide to Understanding People, Palgrave Macmillan

“I thought I should be sensitive, accessible and alive, in order to enable the baby to wake up and to start moving something inside that will bring up her potentials and start to BE.”

Description: Harvey Schwartz welcomes Hamutal Raz Shiloach clinical psychologist and a training and supervising psychoanalyst at the Israeli Psychoanalytic Society. She is a founder and director of the Multicultural Center for Parent-Infant Psychotherapy in Yafo, Israel, which will be the focus for our conversation today. She teaches widely in Israel. This is not surprising because after listening to today’s episode you will hear a master clinician describing her involvement with a very challenging situation with a mother and a young daughter. They are an affectively frozen mother and a frozen daughter, and Hamutal brings not only deep emotional connection to the work with this couple but also deeply thought out cognitive thinking about it as well. It isn’t often that you ́ll find the two combined. There are clinicians who feel very strongly about the work and there are those who think very deeply about the work. It is special when you find someone who does both.

Key takeaways:

[3:27] The challenges of running a multicultural daycare center.

[6:13] Full day program for children at risk who are taken care by welfare authorities.

[7:20] The language and cultural challenge.

[9:02] The particularities about the mother-baby early bond in the African cultural.

[11:46] The presence over the word.

[14:10] Kinds of problems seen at the daycare center.

[15:59] Working with the Arab population in Israel with Arab clinicians.

[17:40] Clinical example.

[30:20] The psychoanalytic intervention through listening and actions.

[33:13] The importance of body language and primitive features in the work with babies.

[33:45] Hamutal Raz Shiloach talks about her career journey and how she started working in this project.

Mentioned in this episode:

IPA Off the Couch www.ipaoffthecouch.org

Recommended Readings:

Interview Bibliography

Dalley, T.  (2010) Containment of trauma: Working in the community. In: T. Baradon (Eds.), Relational Trauma in Infancy. London: Routlege.

Fraiberg, S. (1982)  Pathological Defenses in Infancy. Psychoanalytic Quarterly, 51:612-635.

Salomonsson, B. (2007) 'Talk to me Baby, Tell me What's the Matter Now'  Semiotic and Developmental Perspectives on Communication in Psychoanalytic Infant Treatment. International Journal of Psycho-Analysis, 88(1):127-146.

Stern, D. (1995) The Motherhood Constellation, London: Karnac.

Winnicott, D. W. (1969) The Mother-Infant Experience of Mutuality. In: C . Winnicott., R. Shepherd & M. Davis (Eds.) Psychanalytic Exploration. Cambridge, Massachusetts: Harvard University Press.

“We begin introducing children to emotions, how they felt, their functions and how to deal with their intra and interpersonal feelings, like anger, shame, fear and envy and we did this through storytelling, paintings and plays.”

Description: Harvey Schwartz welcomes Shahrzad Hashemi and Rosa Famini. Shahrzad Hashemi is a psychoanalytic psychotherapist and an advanced candidate at the comprehensive program for psychoanalytic psychotherapy at HamAva Institute in Tehran. She is also the editorial assistant of the open-access journal Psychoanalytic Discourse. In addition to her private practice, Shahrzad has been involved in many psychoanalytically informed activities in hospitals and schools, which we will hear more about in today’s interview. Rosa Famini is also a psychoanalytic psychotherapist and an advanced candidate at the comprehensive program for psychoanalytic psychotherapy at HamAva Institute in Tehran. She is also a PhD candidate in Educational Psychology in Tehran University and she heads the Child and Adolescent Psychoanalytic Psychotherapy training courses being held in collaboration with the Dutch Psychoanalytic Institute and Society in Tehran.

The work we are going to hear about today in the schools is being supervised by Dr. Nahaleh  Moshtagh who is an American trained psychoanalytic candidate and is also the Director of the HamAva Institute. As we will hear in today’s interview, the passion for understanding, touching and freeing people’s minds from painful limitations is an interest that is shared by clinicians worldwide.

Key takeaways:

[4:05] The principles of the school project.

[7:06] School principal who was interested in psychoanalytic training for the students.

[9:10] Pupils, teachers and parents.

[9:26] Improving children’s self reflection skills.

[9:51] Example of the psychoanalytic listening implemented in a school setting.

[13:11] A project that attempts to change perspectives about school.

[15:21] Reflecting on group dynamics.

[17:50] Psychodynamic psychotherapy in Iran.

[19:21] The challenges that Shahrzad Hashemi and Rosa Famini encounter.

[20:36] Psychoanalytic training in Iran.

[23:16] Psychoanalytic private practice in Iran.

[24:25] Future goals for Shahrzad Hashemi and Rosa Famini.

[25:18] Continuing growth in a career as a psychoanalyst.

Mentioned in this episode:

IPA Off the Couch www.ipaoffthecouch.org

Recommended Readings:

Britzman, D. P. (2009). Very Thought of Education, The: Psychoanalysis and the Impossible Professions. Suny Press.

Britzman, D. P. (2012). After-education: Anna Freud, Melanie Klein, and psychoanalytic histories of learning. SUNY Press.

Britzman, D. P. (2015). A psychoanalyst in the classroom: On the human condition in education. Suny Press.

Henry, G., Osborne, E., & Salzberger-Wittenberg, I. (2003). The emotional experience of learning and teaching. Routledge.

Sapountzis, I. (2018). Revisiting Bion’s “Notes on thinking”: Implications for school psychologists. Journal of Infant, Child, and Adolescent Psychotherapy, 17(3), 187-197.

“I listen with my psychoanalytic ear, for the unconscious, for defense mechanisms, affect, ego strengths and relationship between us, but at the UN I specifically want to focus on my work using a psychoanalytic lens”

Description: Harvey Schwartz welcomes Dr. Vivian B. Pender, who is a Clinical Professor of Psychiatry at Weill Cornell Medical College and a Training and Supervising Psychoanalyst at Columbia University’s Center for Psychoanalytic Training and Research. She is a trustee of the American Psychiatric Association. Dr. Pender is also the main representative to the UN of the International Psychoanalytic Association. Her edited book The Status of Women was published by Routledge in 2016.

In our talk today Dr. Pender will describe her long-standing and devoted work at the United Nations and some of the successes that she’s had, bringing her psychoanalytic mindset to that vital work.

Key takeaways:

[3:25] Interventions in sex trafficking and forced marriages.

[7:33] Violence towards women and girls.

[8:23] Commercial sexual exploitation of women and girls.

[8:53] Child marriage is permitted in 48 states in the US.

[9:44] The case of an 8 year old girl about to be married to a 60 year old man.

[10:24] How to report to the UN?

[14:24] The experience of “on the ground workers”.

[18:13] Dr. Pender talks about working for the UN.

[20:01] What brought Dr. Pender into this work?

Mentioned in this episode:

IPA Off the Couch www.ipaoffthecouch.org

World Health Organization Mental Health Action Plan

Recommended Readings:

Bion, W. (1961). Experiences in Groups. London: Tavistock Publications.

Pender VB (2007). Approaches to prevention of intergenerational transmission of hate, war and violence. International Journal of Psychoanalysis;88:507-14.

Pender VB (2019). The International Psychoanalytical Association at the United Nations in Harris, A & Montagna, P, Eds., Psychoanalysis, Law and Society. London: Routledge.

Pero nosotros mantenemos el enfoque psicoanalítico para comenzar desde nuestra manera de escuchar, la manera de escuchar aquello que se nos transmite con la convicción de que los contenidos sociales y culturales son absolutamente susceptibles de ser entendidos y darles sentido desde nuestra escucha.

But we maintain the psychoanalytic approach to start from our way of listening, the way of listening to what is transmitted to us with the conviction that social and cultural contents are absolutely susceptible to be understood and given meaning from our listening.

Description/ Descripción : Laura Katz, psicoanalista de la Asociación Psicoanalítica Argentina   y actual Directora de Comunidad y Cultura de la Federación de Psicoanálisis de Latinoamérica (FEPAL), recibe en este episodio a Maria Pia Costa presidenta de la Sociedad Peruana de Psicoanálisis, dicha sociedad lleva adelante el programa comunitario Psicólogos Contigo, que ha sido ganador del Premio IPA en la Comunidad, este es un premio creado por la actual directiva de la IPA con la intención  de fomentar el trabajo de los psicoanalistas en sus comunidades. El premio será recibido por Maria Pia Costa en el congreso de la IPA en Londres el próximo julio. Maria Pia Costa es psicoanalista didacta y actual presidenta de la Sociedad Peruana de Psicoanálisis, ocupó también anteriormente el puesto de vicepresidenta y tesorera, realizó estudios de doctorado de estado en psicología clínica, psicopatología y psicoanálisis y obtuvo el diploma de estudios avanzados de psicología clínica, psicopatología y psicoanálisis, ambos en la Universidad de Nanterre, París. Ha trabajado temas como la femineidad y homoparentalidad, durante algunos años su interés se ha centrado en temas de violencia política y sus repercusiones emocionales. Ha publicado el libro Frente al Espejo Vacío: Un acercamiento psicoterapéutico a la violencia política. También ha publicado artículos en la revista Calibán, revista de la federación de psicoanálisis de américa latina y también artículos sobre sexualidad femenina y homoparentalidades en la revista de la Sociedad Peruana de Psicoanálisis. Ha publicado otros artículos en la revista Andares y en la Nouvelle Revue de Psychanalyse.

La entrevista de hoy se centrará en poder ampliar diferentes aspectos del programa comunitario Psicólogos Contigo. Los espacios comunitarios son espacios en donde los vínculos que se generan en su interior tienen un efecto directo en la producción de la subjetividad. Hoy reciben las consecuencias que arrojan los procesos de fragmentacion y exclusion social. El trabajo de escucha, posición que se encuentra en los fundamentos del psicoanálisis, habilita en dichos espacios comunitarios, el lugar de la palabra y de esta manera poder darle al sujeto la posibilidad de armar lazo social a través del soporte que le proporcionan sus otros.

Key takeaways/ Claves:

[4:45] Laura Katz le da la bienvenida a Maria Pia Costa al podcast.

[5:05] Premio IPA en la Comunidad.

[5:34] Objetivos iniciales del Programa Psicólogos Contigo.

[8:23] Tres proyectos dentro del programa: Atencion de Campo, Cuaderno: Historia de las lluvias e inundaciones en Perú, y Prevención de Violencia contra Niños y Niñas.

[9:44] Demanda de espacios individuales de diálogo.

[10:50] Atención a la población infantil.

[15:01] VIolencia como una emergencia nacional.

[16:38] Soporte del estado en programas comunitarios.

[18:31] Efectos traumáticos de la violencia de las catástrofes naturales e intrafamiliar.

[19:32] La catástrofe es humana y es social.

[20:58] Las consecuencias de las situaciones de violencia no atendidas.

[21:42] Cuidando generaciones futuras.

[23:33] No hay por qué disociar lo terapéutico de lo comunitario.

[25:48] Psicoanálisis como disciplina pertinente para responder a problemáticas sociales contemporáneas.

[27:34] La escucha psicoanalítica en el espacio comunitario.

[29:15] ¿Por qué Psicologos Contigo y no Psicoanalisis Contigo?

[30:31] Jornadas sobre trabajo comunitario.

[32:26] Salir del diván para alcanzar a la comunidad.

Mentioned in this episode/ Mencionado en este episodio:

IPA Off the Couch www.ipaoffthecouch.org

Recommended Readings/ Lecturas recomendadas:

Marcelo Viñar. Experiencias psicoanalíticas en la actualidad sociocultural. Noveduc. Buenos Aires, 2018.

Mordechai Benyakar. Lo disruptivo. Amenazas individuales y colectivas: el psiquismo ante guerras, terrorismos y catástrofes sociales. Biblos. Buenos Aires, 2003.

Frente al espejo vacío: un acercamiento psicoterapéutico a la violencia política. Equipo de psicoterapeutas de la Coordinadora Nacional de Derechos Humanos. Lima 1998.

César Rodríguez Rabanal. Las cicatrices de la pobreza. Un estudio psicoanalítico. Nueva Sociedad. Lima 1992.