Around the world, as the covid pandemic plays out, and some countries are starting to ease their restrictions, this narrative of the economy and public health being opposing weights on a set of scales keeps returning - they need to be balanced.

But before this, a healthy population is very much seen as being supportive of the economy. So is a pandemic different, or is that dichotomy false.

Joining us to discuss are;

Martin Mckee, professor of european health at LSHTM

Kathleen Bachynski, assistant professor of public health at Muhlenberg College