The Spin Sucks Podcast with Gini Dietrich

Publicity Is Dead. PR Is Not.


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Sir Martin Sorrell said, “PR is dead.” The PR industry responded. And the real issue isn’t whether he’s right—it’s why that line even sounds believable to leadership.

In this episode, Gini Dietrich separates publicity from PR, unpacks why executives often treat PR as a replaceable distribution channel, and explains what modern PR actually does in 2026: it builds credibility that compounds, educates LLMs, engages humans, and drives revenue by reducing friction in the buyer's journey. 

Plus, she shares exactly what to do about it—how to frame PR in executive language and what to measure instead of impressions and “hits.”

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The Spin Sucks Podcast with Gini DietrichBy Gini Dietrich, Founder of Spin Sucks

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