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Jason Matheny, Biden's former top tech + national security advisor, has recently reached one year as CEO of RAND.

We had a truly classic ChinaTalk-style conversation, hitting on:

How to design a world-class research organization

The right and wrong lessons to learn from RAND's heyday in the 1950s

Existential risks around AI and bio

Government's capacity to grok and implement technology strategy

What national security professionals can learn from art and architecture

And a ton more.

Thanks to Check out the Hudson Institute's defense research center here: https://www.hudson.org/policycenters/center-defense-concepts-technology

Some 1950s vibes for our outtro music:

Julie London: https://open.spotify.com/track/6crfO56bDm0RjpctUuGs5X?si=5a434079b24b4d03

Doris Day: https://open.spotify.com/track/20G1XJaTwIm2IuwA3Pjg1d?si=22095e2f9aa842cc

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