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  • Ep #246: Building Massive Wealth Through “Value-Add” Self Storage Investments — with Kris Benson
    In this episode of the Real Estate Investing for Cash Flow podcast, Kevin talks to real estate and self-storage expert, Kris Benson. Kris is a managing principle at Reliant Investments, a subsidiary of Reliant Real Estate Management, a top 30 operator in the self-storage space. Kris oversees investor relations and equity contributions for Reliant’s portfolio expansions.

    In this podcast, Kris shares his inspiring decision to leave his job and pursue business in real estate. He explains how and he got into self-storage real estate and talks about advantages of getting into this asset class. Kris also talks about his involvement with Reliant real estate management and explains how and why he stays with the company.

    Kevin and Kris dive further into self storage real estate and discuss the current market in comparison to other asset classes. Kris shares some perspective on the business and talks about value-adds, supply and demand, the risks, opportunities and other things to be considered when acquiring space for development. Kris also tackles marketability and pricing in this highly competitive and dynamic market.

    QUOTES:

    “I’m a big believer that everything in the market that’s going to happen has happened in the past and so for us, it was a function looking at what happened in the last recession and understanding how the asset class was affected.”

    “My role is managing and kind of institutionalizing he equity arm of our business so that as we’re growing our portfolio, we have access to equity along the way.”

    “At some point, you have to jump in, even if you’re uncomfortable, that’s where you’re going to do the most learning.”

    “Our sweet spot really is not too similar than multifamily where you’re trying to find kind of that C property in a B+ or A area.”

    “Our pricing definitely changes depending on what we’re seeing because when a facility opens up, most of the time they’re going to drop the rates to get you in the door, and then slowly burn off those discounts and concessions as they go.”

    HIGHLIGHTS:

    6:07 Kris shares his background and perspective on deals

    9:58 How Kris got into the self storage asset class

    15:26 Kris’s involvement with Reliant Investing

    21:56 Kevin and Kris talk about self-storage space

    34:18 Retrofit projects

    39:40 Self-storage pricing

    43:57 Buying opportunities

    Recommended Resources:

    Check out our company and our partnership opportunities by visiting SunriseCapitalInvestors.com
    Would you like to partner with us on future MHP deals, call 844-CASH-FLW to learn more or click here to schedule a time on our calendar.
    Grab a free copy of our book “The 21 Biggest Mistakes Investors Make When Purchasing their First Mobile Home Park…and how to avoid them click here

    https://www.reliant-mgmt.com
    www.reliantinvestments.com
    www.krisbenson.com

    Review and Subscribe
    48 min
  • Ep #246: Building Massive Wealth Through "Value-Add" Self Storage Investments -- with Kris Benson

    In this episode of the Real Estate Investing for Cash Flow podcast, Kevin talks to real estate and self-storage expert, Kris Benson. Kris is a managing principle at Reliant Investments, a subsidiary of Reliant Real Estate Management, a top 30 operator in the self-storage space. Kris oversees investor relations and equity contributions for Reliant's portfolio expansions.

    In this podcast, Kris shares his inspiring decision to leave his job and pursue business in real estate. He explains how and he got into self-storage real estate and talks about advantages of getting into this asset class. Kris also talks about his involvement with Reliant real estate management and explains how and why he stays with the company.

    Kevin and Kris dive further into self storage real estate and discuss the current market in comparison to other asset classes. Kris shares some perspective on the business and talks about value-adds, supply and demand, the risks, opportunities and other things to be considered when acquiring space for development. Kris also tackles marketability and pricing in this highly competitive and dynamic market.

    QUOTES:

    "I'm a big believer that everything in the market that's going to happen has happened in the past and so for us, it was a function looking at what happened in the last recession and understanding how the asset class was affected."

    "My role is managing and kind of institutionalizing he equity arm of our business so that as we're growing our portfolio, we have access to equity along the way."

    "At some point, you have to jump in, even if you're uncomfortable, that's where you're going to do the most learning."

    "Our sweet spot really is not too similar than multifamily where you're trying to find kind of that C property in a B+ or A area."

    "Our pricing definitely changes depending on what we're seeing because when a facility opens up, most of the time they're going to drop the rates to get you in the door, and then slowly burn off those discounts and concessions as they go."

    HIGHLIGHTS:

    6:07 Kris shares his background and perspective on deals

    9:58 How Kris got into the self storage asset class

    15:26 Kris's involvement with Reliant Investing

    21:56 Kevin and Kris talk about self-storage space

    34:18 Retrofit projects

    39:40 Self-storage pricing

    43:57 Buying opportunities

    Recommended Resources:

    • Check out our company and our partnership opportunities by visiting SunriseCapitalInvestors.com
    • Would you like to partner with us on future MHP deals, call 844-CASH-FLW to learn more or click here to schedule a time on our calendar.
    • Grab a free copy of our book "The 21 Biggest Mistakes Investors Make When Purchasing their First Mobile Home Park…and how to avoid them click here
    • https://www.reliant-mgmt.com
    • www.reliantinvestments.com
    • www.krisbenson.com

    Review and Subscribe

    48 min
  • Ep #245: Building a Vertically Integrated Property Management Company Versus Outsourcing to a Third Party
    In this episode of the Real Estate Investment for Cash Flow podcast, Kevin brings in his good friend, James Kandsamy.

    James is a real estate and multifamily home expert with years of experience in asset management. He is also the director of acquisition and investor relations at Achieve Investment Group, a multifamily investment firm dedicated to acquiring and operating properties with significant value-add components located in high growth top tier US MSA’s.

    In the podcast, James talks about why and how he ventured into multifamily real estate. He explains why his property management structure is vertically integrated into his company, a feature which is somewhat unique in multifamily properties.

    Kevin and James discuss acquiring leads with today’s online capabilities. James talks about finding and adding value in properties and shares some tools and resources that real estate entrepreneurs can utilize to acquire information about the market.

    QUOTES:

    “I realized that there’s a lot of magic in multifamily commercial real estate because of the fast appreciation so I said ‘I’m moving to commercial real estate.’”

    “The best method right now in this market cycle to get started in multifamily or any commercial, I would say, it’s basically to go direct to the seller and do direct mail, cold texting or cold calling and establishing the relationship.”

    “You have to use some kind of value proposition to buy this kind of deal —what is special to you that you are able to buy, that someone else is not able to buy?"

    “In general, across all my properties in multifamily in San Antonio, we have seen that Google is the best...So make sure you have good reviews in Google. I think almost 80% of my leads come from Google.”

    “I think the most important value-add is just good management.”

    HIGHLIGHTS:

    9:24 James’ background and how he got into multifamily real estate

    19:16 Competition and opportunities in multifamily real estate

    21:52 Management structure at Achieve Investment

    27:14 Getting leads from a marketing perspective

    33:13 James talks about a certain deal

    39:30 “Valuable value-adds”

    41:45 Online resources and sensitivity analyses

    Recommended Resources:

    Check out our company and our partnership opportunities by visiting SunriseCapitalInvestors.com
    Would you like to partner with us on future MHP deals, call 844-CASH-FLW to learn more or click here to schedule a time on our calendar.
    Grab a free copy of our book “The 21 Biggest Mistakes Investors Make When Purchasing their First Mobile Home Park…and how to avoid them click here

    Zumper (management software)
    Trulia (Real estate information platform)
    ArcGis (Real estate information platform)
    [email protected] (James’ email)
    Multifamily Investors Group (Facebook group hosted by James)

    Review and Subscribe
    53 min
  • Ep #245: Building a Vertically Integrated Property Management Company Versus Outsourcing to a Third Party

    In this episode of the Real Estate Investment for Cash Flow podcast, Kevin brings in his good friend, James Kandsamy. James is a real estate and multifamily home expert with years of experience in asset management. He is also the director of acquisition and investor relations at Achieve Investment Group, a multifamily investment firm dedicated to acquiring and operating properties with significant value-add components located in high growth top tier US MSA's. In the podcast, James talks about why and how he ventured into multifamily real estate. He explains why his property management structure is vertically integrated into his company, a feature which is somewhat unique in multifamily properties. Kevin and James discuss acquiring leads with today's online capabilities. James talks about finding and adding value in properties and shares some tools and resources that real estate entrepreneurs can utilize to acquire information about the market.

    QUOTES:

    "I realized that there's a lot of magic in multifamily commercial real estate because of the fast appreciation so I said 'I'm moving to commercial real estate.'" "The best method right now in this market cycle to get started in multifamily or any commercial, I would say, it's basically to go direct to the seller and do direct mail, cold texting or cold calling and establishing the relationship." "You have to use some kind of value proposition to buy this kind of deal —what is special to you that you are able to buy, that someone else is not able to buy?" "In general, across all my properties in multifamily in San Antonio, we have seen that Google is the best...So make sure you have good reviews in Google. I think almost 80% of my leads come from Google." "I think the most important value-add is just good management."

    HIGHLIGHTS:

    9:24 James' background and how he got into multifamily real estate 19:16 Competition and opportunities in multifamily real estate 21:52 Management structure at Achieve Investment 27:14 Getting leads from a marketing perspective 33:13 James talks about a certain deal 39:30 "Valuable value-adds" 41:45 Online resources and sensitivity analyses

    Recommended Resources:

    • Check out our company and our partnership opportunities by visiting SunriseCapitalInvestors.com
    • Would you like to partner with us on future MHP deals, call 844-CASH-FLW to learn more or click here to schedule a time on our calendar.
    • Grab a free copy of our book "The 21 Biggest Mistakes Investors Make When Purchasing their First Mobile Home Park…and how to avoid them click here
    • Zumper (management software)
    • Trulia (Real estate information platform)
    • ArcGis (Real estate information platform)
    • [email protected] (James' email)
    • Multifamily Investors Group (Facebook group hosted by James)

    Review and Subscribe

    53 min
  • Ep #244: How to Go From Property Manager to Multifamily Owner and Syndicator -- with Adam Adams

    In this episode of Real Estate Investing for Cashflow, Kevin welcomes his good friend, Adam Adams, otherwise known as Adam Triple A Adams. Adam is a real estate expert and founder of Real Blue Spruce. Adam is also a fellow podcaster, the co-host of The Creative Real Estate podcast.

    In this podcast, Adam talks about his interesting background, how he made a million dollars for his boss in a span of twelve months, and how he eventually focused on multifamily syndication after the financial crisis.

    Kevin and Adam discuss multifamily investing and what it takes to succeed in that niche and in other asset classes as well. Adam also breaks down their team's management structure and strategy at Real Blue Spruce. He also talks about strategies on how to find and properly contact brokers in a given market.

    QUOTES:

    "If you want to get into multi-family and you're thinking 'it's too competitive, it's too this or too that', you'll definitely not do too well at it but if you go into it focused on 'how can I? What are the ways to do this? How can I align with somebody who's already doing deals..?'"

    "Make sure to learn and educate yourself about the asset class and if you're tenacious enough, you can build a team."

    "When you're on the buying side of things, getting in and getting your first deal done whether it be mobile home parks or multi-family or shopping centers, what have you, you could pick any asset class, there's always an opportunity out there and it's your job to get in front to that opportunity, be prepared when it presents itself."

    "If you can align yourself with a really good broker, and you'll give them all the parameters and they can actually print you out something, pages and pages of information which can be a really good resource."

    HIGHLIGHTS:

    6:30 Adam's background and how he got into multifamily investing

    11:05 Adam's work as a property manager

    16:16 Is it advisable to get into multi family real estate?

    21:30 The team aspect of the business

    27:56 Improving and over-improving facilities

    39:34 How to find and contact brokers

    Recommended Resources:

    • Check out our company and our partnership opportunities by visiting SunriseCapitalInvestors.com
    • Would you like to partner with us on future MHP deals, call 844-CASH-FLW to learn more or click here to schedule a time on our calendar.
    • Grab a free copy of our book "The 21 Biggest Mistakes Investors Make When Purchasing their First Mobile Home Park…and how to avoid them click here
    • Rich Dad, Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki
    • http://www.costar.com/
    • https://realbluespruce.com/

    Review and Subscribe

    47 min
  • Ep #244: How to Go From Property Manager to Multifamily Owner and Syndicator — with Adam Adams
    In this episode of Real Estate Investing for Cashflow, Kevin welcomes his good friend, Adam Adams, otherwise known as Adam Triple A Adams. Adam is a real estate expert and founder of Real Blue Spruce. Adam is also a fellow podcaster, the co-host of The Creative Real Estate podcast.

    In this podcast, Adam talks about his interesting background, how he made a million dollars for his boss in a span of twelve months, and how he eventually focused on multifamily syndication after the financial crisis.

    Kevin and Adam discuss multifamily investing and what it takes to succeed in that niche and in other asset classes as well. Adam also breaks down their team’s management structure and strategy at Real Blue Spruce. He also talks about strategies on how to find and properly contact brokers in a given market.

     

    QUOTES:

    “If you want to get into multi-family and you’re thinking ‘it’s too competitive, it’s too this or too that’, you’ll definitely not do too well at it but if you go into it focused on ‘how can I? What are the ways to do this? How can I align with somebody who’s already doing deals..?’”

    “Make sure to learn and educate yourself about the asset class and if you’re tenacious enough, you can build a team.”

    “When you’re on the buying side of things, getting in and getting your first deal done whether it be mobile home parks or multi-family or shopping centers, what have you, you could pick any asset class, there’s always an opportunity out there and it’s your job to get in front to that opportunity, be prepared when it presents itself.”

    “If you can align yourself with a really good broker, and you’ll give them all the parameters and they can actually print you out something, pages and pages of information which can be a really good resource.”

     

    HIGHLIGHTS:

    6:30 Adam’s background and how he got into multifamily investing

    11:05 Adam’s work as a property manager

    16:16 Is it advisable to get into multi family real estate?

    21:30 The team aspect of the business

    27:56 Improving and over-improving facilities

    39:34 How to find and contact brokers

     

    Recommended Resources:

    Check out our company and our partnership opportunities by visiting SunriseCapitalInvestors.com
    Would you like to partner with us on future MHP deals, call 844-CASH-FLW to learn more or click here to schedule a time on our calendar.
    Grab a free copy of our book “The 21 Biggest Mistakes Investors Make When Purchasing their First Mobile Home Park…and how to avoid them click here

    Rich Dad, Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki
    http://www.costar.com/
    https://realbluespruce.com/

    Review and Subscribe
    51 min
  • Ep #243: Retail is not Dead…Learn How To Capitalize on Neighborhood Retail Shopping Centers! — with David Puchi
    In this episode of the Real Estate Investing for Cashflow Podcast, Kevin brings in real estate and retail expert David Puchi. David is the founder and partner of Baceline Investments, a private real estate investment and management company with a focus on strengthening communities by acquiring and revitalizing neighborhood shopping centers. David has been responsible for raising approximately 300 million dollars for Baceline-sponsored funds.

    In the podcast, David talks extensively about the retail sector and how he centered his focus on it. He explains the management structure at Baceline and the stability in their tenant base, which consists of a lot of mom-and-pop retailers. He talks about why it’s actually beneficial to help their tenants succeed.

    David also shares the financial strategy behind their business and goes on to explain what physical improvements his team adds to properties to increase value in the market. He shares how their business survived the financial crisis, which circles back to his focus on the retail sector. David shares what the future plans are for Baceline Investments.

     

    QUOTES:

    “Our company today, really carries on a lot of the traditions that I started with when I broke free from practicing law and primarily, it has never been a transactional type of company, we’ve always been more of an operating company.”

    “Our niche in the world is owning and operating multi-tenant neighborhood shopping centers that are primarily unanchored.”

    “You know the small mom-and-pop tenants may not be considered credit from a Wall Street perspective, but from a reality perspective they’re actually really good credit because these are family businesses that people fight for everyday.”

    “The reason we like to be in the middle of the country is that we find great stability in the cities that we’re in, we also find that there’s less competition…”

    “Rolling through the recession, we saw the resilience of our tenant base and then basically turned that to the sole purpose of our company moving forward, as far as investing is concerned.”

     

    HIGHLIGHTS:

    7:17 David’s background and getting into real estate

    11:01 Asset classes and credit ratings

    17:35 Baceline’s geographic focus and seller profiles

    21:42 How David adds value to their properties

    26:46 Debt, equity and the financial crisis

    34:36 SWOT analysis of the retail sector

    45:46 Long term plan for Baceline Investments

     

    Recommended Resources:

    Check out our company and our partnership opportunities by visiting SunriseCapitalInvestors.com
    Would you like to partner with us on future MHP deals, call 844-CASH-FLW to learn more or click here to schedule a time on our calendar.
    Grab a free copy of our book “The 21 Biggest Mistakes Investors Make When Purchasing their First Mobile Home Park…and how to avoid them click here

    http://www.bacelineinvestments.com/

    Review and Subscribe
    51 min
  • Ep #243: Retail is not Dead...Learn How To Capitalize on Neighborhood Retail Shopping Centers! -- with David Puchi

    In this episode of the Real Estate Investing for Cashflow Podcast, Kevin brings in real estate and retail expert David Puchi. David is the founder and partner of Baceline Investments, a private real estate investment and management company with a focus on strengthening communities by acquiring and revitalizing neighborhood shopping centers. David has been responsible for raising approximately 300 million dollars for Baceline-sponsored funds.

    In the podcast, David talks extensively about the retail sector and how he centered his focus on it. He explains the management structure at Baceline and the stability in their tenant base, which consists of a lot of mom-and-pop retailers. He talks about why it's actually beneficial to help their tenants succeed.

    David also shares the financial strategy behind their business and goes on to explain what physical improvements his team adds to properties to increase value in the market. He shares how their business survived the financial crisis, which circles back to his focus on the retail sector. David shares what the future plans are for Baceline Investments.

    QUOTES:

    "Our company today, really carries on a lot of the traditions that I started with when I broke free from practicing law and primarily, it has never been a transactional type of company, we've always been more of an operating company."

    "Our niche in the world is owning and operating multi-tenant neighborhood shopping centers that are primarily unanchored."

    "You know the small mom-and-pop tenants may not be considered credit from a Wall Street perspective, but from a reality perspective they're actually really good credit because these are family businesses that people fight for everyday."

    "The reason we like to be in the middle of the country is that we find great stability in the cities that we're in, we also find that there's less competition…"

    "Rolling through the recession, we saw the resilience of our tenant base and then basically turned that to the sole purpose of our company moving forward, as far as investing is concerned."

    HIGHLIGHTS:

    7:17 David's background and getting into real estate

    11:01 Asset classes and credit ratings

    17:35 Baceline's geographic focus and seller profiles

    21:42 How David adds value to their properties

    26:46 Debt, equity and the financial crisis

    34:36 SWOT analysis of the retail sector

    45:46 Long term plan for Baceline Investments

    Recommended Resources:

    • Check out our company and our partnership opportunities by visiting SunriseCapitalInvestors.com
    • Would you like to partner with us on future MHP deals, call 844-CASH-FLW to learn more or click here to schedule a time on our calendar.
    • Grab a free copy of our book "The 21 Biggest Mistakes Investors Make When Purchasing their First Mobile Home Park…and how to avoid them click here
    • http://www.bacelineinvestments.com/

    Review and Subscribe

    51 min
  • Ep #242: How to Successfully Invest in Defaulted Second Mortgages and Junior Liens — with Jim Maffuccio
    In this episode of the Real Estate Investing for Cash Flow podcast, Kevin talks to real estate and note investment expert, Jim Maffuccio. Jim is co-founder and CIO of Aspen funds, an investment fund that provides returns without the volatility of traditional investment options. He is a 30 year old real estate veteran and deeply networked in the secondary mortgage industry.

    In the podcast, Jim covers how he bounced from the recession and got into the note business. He talks about secondary mortgages and the profit strategies he and his team employ when capitalizing on note investments. He explains the process of restructuring distressed debt to benefit investors. Kevin and Jim also discuss the dynamics of working remotely and having a headquarters for business.

     

    QUOTES:

    “Aspen Funds was started in 2012, really kind of born out of the adversity and the lessons that I learned in what debt can do to you if you’re a small developer, a small fish in a big pond. So that’s what launched me into the mortgage space.”

    “If you’re gonna buy one offs, you can be picky about what you buy in terms of the equity profile of the deal that you’re buying. At our scale, we have to be ready to pretty much buy everything..”

    ‘We’re at about 65% of the time, we are able to modify the loan, keep the loan, get it re-performing and sell it to an income fund or another cash flow buyer. Another 10 or 15% of the time we actually get a settlement..”

    “We’ve seen the quantity of deal flow has definitely diminished in the residential mortgage space in general. Most of that is first leads where most of the players have been, and margins have shrunk as price points have increased for mortgages in general.”

    “If 10% of our loans, at any given time, stop paying, all the metrics of our fund are set up such that the fund investors don’t miss a blip and our management don’t miss a blip. We have that built into our pricing model.”

     

    HIGHLIGHTS:

    8:13 Jim’s background and how he co-founded Aspen Funds

    14:11 Buying and selling real estate notes

    18:41 Different investor profiles

    21:10 What would be an ideal loan acquisition?

    27:44 How the landscape changed since the crash

    34:25 Business and management structure at Aspen

     

    Recommended Resources:

    Check out our company and our partnership opportunities by visiting SunriseCapitalInvestors.com
    Would you like to partner with us on future MHP deals, call 844-CASH-FLW to learn more or click here to schedule a time on our calendar.
    Grab a free copy of our book “The 21 Biggest Mistakes Investors Make When Purchasing their First Mobile Home Park…and how to avoid them click here

    www.aspenfunds.us

    Review and Subscribe
    46 min
  • Ep #242: How to Successfully Invest in Defaulted Second Mortgages and Junior Liens -- with Jim Maffuccio

    In this episode of the Real Estate Investing for Cash Flow podcast, Kevin talks to real estate and note investment expert, Jim Maffuccio. Jim is co-founder and CIO of Aspen funds, an investment fund that provides returns without the volatility of traditional investment options. He is a 30 year old real estate veteran and deeply networked in the secondary mortgage industry.

    In the podcast, Jim covers how he bounced from the recession and got into the note business. He talks about secondary mortgages and the profit strategies he and his team employ when capitalizing on note investments. He explains the process of restructuring distressed debt to benefit investors. Kevin and Jim also discuss the dynamics of working remotely and having a headquarters for business.

    QUOTES:

    "Aspen Funds was started in 2012, really kind of born out of the adversity and the lessons that I learned in what debt can do to you if you're a small developer, a small fish in a big pond. So that's what launched me into the mortgage space."

    "If you're gonna buy one offs, you can be picky about what you buy in terms of the equity profile of the deal that you're buying. At our scale, we have to be ready to pretty much buy everything.."

    'We're at about 65% of the time, we are able to modify the loan, keep the loan, get it re-performing and sell it to an income fund or another cash flow buyer. Another 10 or 15% of the time we actually get a settlement.."

    "We've seen the quantity of deal flow has definitely diminished in the residential mortgage space in general. Most of that is first leads where most of the players have been, and margins have shrunk as price points have increased for mortgages in general."

    "If 10% of our loans, at any given time, stop paying, all the metrics of our fund are set up such that the fund investors don't miss a blip and our management don't miss a blip. We have that built into our pricing model."

    HIGHLIGHTS:

    8:13 Jim's background and how he co-founded Aspen Funds

    14:11 Buying and selling real estate notes

    18:41 Different investor profiles

    21:10 What would be an ideal loan acquisition?

    27:44 How the landscape changed since the crash

    34:25 Business and management structure at Aspen

    Recommended Resources:

    • Check out our company and our partnership opportunities by visiting SunriseCapitalInvestors.com
    • Would you like to partner with us on future MHP deals, call 844-CASH-FLW to learn more or click here to schedule a time on our calendar.
    • Grab a free copy of our book "The 21 Biggest Mistakes Investors Make When Purchasing their First Mobile Home Park…and how to avoid them click here
    • www.aspenfunds.us

    Review and Subscribe

    46 min

About Real Estate Investing for Cash Flow with Kevin Bupp

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There are a lot of real estate podcasts out there, most of which focusing on the residential fix and flips or wholesaling, but Kevin Bupp believes there's a smarter way to build long term cash flow and generational wealth. On the Real Estate Investing For Cash Flow podcast, you'll learn firsthand how the most successful commercial real estate investors in the world have learned to leverage their multifamily and commercial properties to create a steady stream of passive income. We'll spend time with industry experts who will teach you how to take your Real Estate Investing business to the next level.

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