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But not in that order. Jen and Cat sit down with author Jennifer Pastiloff to talk about her new book, Proof of Life, a National Best Seller, as well as all things asshole-ness. Yes, that's a word. How we look at shame and how we deal with those negative thoughts (inner asshole) to be able to give ourselves permission to live the lives we want.
Maybe it’s the tequila or the end of times that make these two have a lot to say this week. Jen and Cat cover everything from fake female empowerment, artistic expression to medical gaslighting and celiac disease. They also talk about the new “messy girl” aesthetic and how you should just finger it. YOUR HAIR, that is. Jeez, get your mind out of the gutter.
Jen and Cat sit down for an unforgettable two-part conversation with the one and only Christina Applegate.
Did life turn out the way you thought it would?
This question sparks a deeply honest and beautifully raw conversation—about life, grief, identity, and what happens when everything changes.
From Jen and Christina reminiscing about the days of filming Samantha Who? to a chat about what it really means to face a life that you didn’t see coming. Christina opens up about navigating her MS diagnosis, dealing with the rage, the grief—in such an honest way that is so refreshing that it gives not only her permission to just be, but others as well. That is living rebelliously with all the glory, the joy and the anger. That’s why Christina will always be one of our favorite rebels.
Jen and Cat sit down for an unforgettable two-part conversation with the one and only Christina Applegate.
Did life turn out the way you thought it would?
This question sparks a deeply honest and beautifully raw conversation—about life, grief, identity, and what happens when everything changes.
From Jen and Christina reminiscing about the days of filming Samantha Who? to a chat about what it really means to face a life that you didn’t see coming. Christina opens up about navigating her MS diagnosis, dealing with the rage, the grief—in such an honest way that is so refreshing that it gives not only her permission to just be, but others as well. That is living rebelliously with all the glory, the joy and the anger. That’s why Christina will always be one of our favorite rebels.
That’s the sentence that sends Jen and Cat into a full blown melt down. “They” meaning the powers that be- and “miss everything” is well- YOUR LIFE and how as adults we forget to PLAY! It’s a fun, thought provoking, important and quite touching conversation that brings Jen to tears.
Jen and Cat sit down with award winning filmmaker Vanessa Hope for her latest documentary, INVISIBLE NATION, which is currently history in Taiwan. We talk all about how this female led country is NOT just a film about Taiwan. It’s an about how women lead differently — and how that difference could save democracy. This is a vital listen!
And yes, we always dance!
Jen and Cat welcome their first guest, Tara DeFrancisco.
Why her? Because while doom-scrolling through this dystopian world we are currently living in, they both found her—separately—and laughed out loud.
Tara is many things- a comedic actor on stage and screen, a teacher but mostly - a honest, hilarious and wildly human who is offering exactly what’s needed right now: a breath of fresh air.
She rose to social media fame with her 10 second clips filled with hilarity and heart. Come hear How she decided that her motto in life was, “Joy or bust” and how laughter might be the most rebellious act of all.
This is one of those questions that can bring up A LOT. It’s one of the many conversations REBEL[LIOUS] tackles this week. Jennifer takes the hot seat as Cat goes deep with questions to get to know our host a bit better. From her struggles with Celiac Disease, to finding her way as a young actor, to the roles she had to play off camera…to finally being able to call herself an artist after a 30 year career. What are you waiting to call yourself and why?
And, of course, they dance.
In the second half of Meet the Rebel Hosts- Cat is now in the hot seat as Jen asks the questions. Why, even though Cat has been creating for years has she held herself back for years feeling “less then”. Forget calling herself an artist she barely made room for herself to just exist fully. Growing up gay and eating kibbeh may have had something to do with it. If you can relate to allowing the conditions you’ve been taught out of fear to dictate who and what you become then come spend an informative, yet funny, half hour with us.
Do you even know how deeply culture shapes you as an artist and as a human? From what you see, read and hear -it’s all designed to tell you who and how to be in this world. So what do we do, Jen and Cat? Well….We dance it out!! Join us!
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REBEL[LIOUS]
Art. Culture. Human.
with Jennifer Esposito and Cat Yezbak
We’re tackling the world’s biggest issues… with absolutely no plan to solve…
Each week, we dig into culture—how it shapes us, traps us, and tells us who we’re supposed to be—as artists and as humans, just trying to make it through.
We question everything, laugh a lot, offer unsolicited advice, and when it gets too heavy?
We dance it out.
No answers. Just honesty, rebellion, and a little joy in the chaos.

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