Rebels take action when they feel something is not right in their world. In this conversation, Jenny, Erin and Alan Patterson talk about rebellion in leadership, the motivations behind rebellious behavior, and the importance of nurturing relationships in the workplace. We discuss how family dynamics influence rebellious tendencies, the impact of cynicism and anger, and the need for positive change through rebellion. The conversation emphasizes the significance of building bridges, challenging societal structures, and developing effective communication skills.We cover a lot of ground – discussing the qualities that make rebels effective leaders, evolving the measure(s) of success, the challenges women face in balancing work and family, generational shifts in perspectives on these roles, and the importance of naming and supporting the mental loads we often carry.