Refuse Fascism

Sam talks with Kasey Meehan, Freedom to Read Program Director at PEN America. Their new report America's Censored Classrooms 2023 states, "Over the past three years, state legislators have launched an onslaught of educational gag orders—state legislative and policy efforts to restrict teaching about topics such as race, gender, American history, and LGBTQ+ identities in educational

Plus, commentary on the latest developments post-November 2023 elections and other recent news.

Mentioned in this episode:

My life has been defined by genocide of Jewish people. I look on Gaza with concern by Jason Stanley

Institute for Middle East Understanding

Block Cop City

Thread from Sunsara Taylor about abortion rights

Recommended Reading:

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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown

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The GOP Embrace of Fascist “Moms for Liberty”

Stop Cop City

Stop The Genocide in Gaza

Sam talks with writer Sarah Posner about Mike Johnson, the new Speaker of the House, third in line to the presidency and Christian Nationalist who spent around a decade as a lawyer with Alliance Defending Freedom (sic), the organization behind the recent wave of state level anti-abortion legislation, the 303 Creative SCOTUS case, and on the wrong side of many other battles.

Read Sarah's book UNHOLY: How White Christian Nationalists Powered the Trump Presidency, And the Devastating Legacy They Left Behind, get her latest commentary on MSNBC, and follow her on sarahposner.com.

Mentioned in this episode:

Mike Johnson’s Christian nationalist track record isn’t a mystery — it’s a tragedy by Sarah Posner on MSNBC

Mike Johnson, theocrat: the House speaker and a plot against America by Marci A. Hamilton in The Guardian

White Christian Nationalism, Now with a Gavel in a Tailored Suit by Robert P. Jones

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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown

Related episodes:

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⁠The Insurrectionist House of Representatives with Thomas Zimmer⁠

⁠The Extremist History of White Christian Nationalism --And What Comes Next with Bradley Onishi ⁠

⁠American Crusades & the Supreme Court with Andrew Seidel

Sam talks with Mark Tinkleman, co-producer of the podcast, about the genocide in Gaza and the dangerous unity between imperialist “democracy” and fascism, plus what’s happening in the House of Representatives and more. Views expressed in this episode are the opinions of Sam and Mark themselves. Follow Mark on Instagram at @marknoodler.

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If Not Now

American Jews organizing our community to end U.S. support for Israel's apartheid system and demand equality, justice, and a thriving future for all.

Join the protest in DC on Wednesday October 25 calling for a ceasefire or find an event near you:

https://www.ifnotnowmovement.org/upcoming-events

Jewish Voice for Peace

On Wednesday afternoon, thousands of American Jews and allies showed up to Capitol Hill to demand a ceasefire in Gaza and an end to Israeli genocide of Palestinians.

Hyerpallergic: Art Organizations Around the World Go on Strike in Support of Gaza

Artists, galleries, and museums are closing their doors to demand a ceasefire in Gaza, where Israeli strikes have killed upwards of 4,200 Palestinian people.

Open letter to President Biden: we call for a ceasefire now

from Judith Butler, Masha Gessen, Rachel Kushner, Ben Lerner, V (formerly Eve Ensler) and others

Artists Call for Ceasefire Now

from Dua Lipa, James Schamus, Mark Ruffalo, Quinta Brunson, Rosario Dawson, Shailene Woodley and many others

An Open Letter From the Art Community to Cultural Organizations

Bassem Youssef on Piers Morgan's Show

History and Analysis

When the Devil Is Your Own: The horrifying continuity between 9/11 and 10/7

by Sarah Kendzior

Revcom.us on the history of Palestine in Israel and imperialism

The RNL — Revolution, Nothing Less! — Show episode 169:

No to Israel/U.S.! No to Hamas! Humanity Needs Revolution & the New Communism!

US right heats up inflammatory rhetoric on Palestine as Muslim groups worry

Outpouring of extreme statements from Republican politicians threatens safety of Arab Americans, groups warn

Professor Ilan Pappé: Israel Has Chosen to be a “Racist Apartheid State” with U.S. Support

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Gaza’s Last Stand? The Dangers of a Second Nakba

by Jamie Stern-Weiner

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No show next week - we'll be back November 5.

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Sam talks with Dahlia Lithwick about how the SCOTUS and this term fit into the growing fascist threat and the stakes of the cases they will potentially be hearing and deciding this year. Dahlia Lithwick writes about the courts and the law for Slate and hosts the podcast Amicus. She is the author of Women, the Law, and the Battle to Save America.

Mentioned in this episode:

A Monumental SCOTUS Term Begins: Our Reluctant Curtain-Raiser

This Supreme Court Term’s Grimmest Cases Share One Thing in Common

5-4 Podcast 2023-2024 Term Preview with Chris Geidner

ProPublica: We Don’t Talk About Leonard Podcast

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The Court is Wrong; Colorblindness Serving White Supremacy

SCOTUS Openly Advances Fascism

SCOTUS, The Shadow Docket, and The Fascist Assault on the Environment

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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown

Sam talks with writer and historian Paul Street (also on the RefuseFascism.org Editorial Board) about recent events including the fascist attempts to shut down the government, the ouster of Kevin McCarthy from the Speaker of the House, and the increasingly violent threats and promises of vengeance from current frontline candidate for president and as-yet unconvicted coup plotter Donald Trump. Follow Paul on his Substack and read his latest article, Nether the Fascist Trump Nor Imperialist Biden

Mentioned in this episode:

America needs to talk about the right’s ‘Red Caesar’ plan for U.S. dictatorship by Will Bunch

Trump’s Bloody Campaign Promises by David Remnick

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Fascism In America: Past and Present

Trump Indicted and Media Complicity in the Rise of Fascism

The Fantasy of the Reasonable Republican 

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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown

Sam talks with Roxy Szal, Austin-based feminist writer and Digital Editor of Ms. Magazine about the state of emergency for abortion access in many parts of the U.S. and much more. For more from Roxy and Ms Magazine visit https://msmagazine.com/ and listen to the On The Issues podcast hosted by Michelle Godwin here. Check out the Fifty Years of Ms. book here.

Plus commentary from Coco Das (@Coco_Das) about GOP front-runner Donald Trump's attacks on the U.S. military, a basis for optimism for the future, and more.

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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown

Sam talks with Gavriel D. Rosenfeld and Janet Ward, the two editors of a new book titled Fascism in America. Gavriel D. Rosenfeld is President of the Center for Jewish History and Professor of History at Fairfield University. He is the author or editor of eight books on the Nazi era, including The Fourth Reich: The Specter of Nazism since World War II (2019) and Hi Hitler! How the Nazi Past Is Being Normalized in Contemporary Culture

Federico Finchelstein, author of From Fascism to Populism in

Mentioned in this episode:

Fighting Fascism: A Symposium on Jewish Responses From the Interwar Period to the Present Day

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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown

Sam talks with Keyanna Michelle Jones, an organizer with Community Movement Builders. They discuss the ominous and illegitimate RICO indictments "Cop City" opponents face and the fascist assault on the right to protest there. Follow her at @kmichelle_atl and learn more about Community Movement Builders here: https://communitymovementbuilders.org.

Note this episode was recorded on September 12. On Sunday September 17 Stacey Abrams said that she thinks Cop City should be put up for a referendum vote after the mayor put her on the spot, saying that he consulted with her before trying to obstruct the vote.

Mentioned in this episode:

Atlanta Solidarity Fund https://atlsolidarity.org

Block Cop City mass nonviolent direct action Nov 10-13 in Atlanta:

https://blockcopcity.org/

Previous episode about the uprising in Iran: Women, Life, Freedom

https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/refuse-fascism/episodes/Women--Life--Freedom-e1pbt30/a-a8mth5u

For more background on this topic:

Atlanta Community Press Collective: Georgia Attorney General brings RICO indictments against 61 activists

https://atlpresscollective.com/2023/09/05/georgia-attorney-general-brings-rico-indictments-against-61-activists/

The Nation: How Georgia Indicted a Movement

https://www.thenation.com/article/society/cop-city-indictment-atlanta/

Revolution: RICO Indictment Against Cop City Protesters:

An Ominous and Illegitimate Fascist Assault on Legitimate and Righteous Protest

https://revcom.us/en/rico-indictment-against-cop-city-protesters-ominous-and-illegitimate-fascist-assault-legitimate-and

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Sam talks with Will Carless, national correspondent for USA Today on extremism, about his recent investigation: The military ordered big steps to stop extremism. Two years later, it shows no results. Follow him on Twitter @WillCarless and read his work at USA Today.

Mentioned in the episode:

Georgia Attorney General brings RICO indictments against 61 activists

RICO indictments for 61 people alleged to be part of the Stop Cop City Movement

Proud Boys Didn't Just Crash An Election. They Upended The Next One Too.
Trump plans to become a dictator — denial will not save you

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Proud Boys and a New Era of American Fascism 

The Flag and the Cross and the Little Blue Bird 

Fascist Violence Accelerated 

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Sam talks with Dr. Marvin Dunn, historian and activist with The Miami Center for Racial Justice about their educational tours of Florida covering sites of lynchings and other oppression (prime example: Rosewood) — the knowledge of which is being suppressed by the Desantis fascist offensive against public education. Learn more, get involved and support Teach the Truth projects at https://miamicenterforracialjustice.org/. Follow Dr. Dunn on the site formerly known as Twitter @MarvinDunn4.

Mentioned in this episode:

Educational Intimidation

It's Not Just Florida: Four New 'Don't Say Gay' Laws Passed in 2023

Check out this call to protest!

Oppose the lynch-mob celebrating Jason Aldean concert in Tinley Park, IL (suburb of Chicago) on Saturday Sept 9. Learn more from Revolution Club Chicago (revclub.chi on Instagram): https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cwni9h_J1WZ/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

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Foundation 451: Defying DeSantis' Book Bans

The Nazification of American Education

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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown