The Doze Podcast

Rest Is the New ROI - Sleep as the Secret to Sustainable Success


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Ep. 95 What if the secret to sustainable success isn’t pushing harder, but resting smarter?  Learn how aligning with rest can elevate your leadership, sharpen your vision, and keep your business thriving without burning out.

In front of a live studio audience of entrepreneurs, Soda Kuczkowsk, host of The Doze Podcast, sits down with Healing Her Within host Maryann Rivera-Dannert to flip the script on hustle culture. From the science of sleep to the spirituality of surrender, this conversation explores how true alignment starts with rest. 

Together they break down the seven types of rest, the myth of “I’ll sleep when I’m dead,” and practical ways to restore clarity, creativity, and calm while growing your business.


Key Takeaways:

  • Redefine hustle — why rest is the new ROI for aligned entrepreneurs

  • Discover your chronotype + set a rhythm that supports your energy flow

  • Morning light, caffeine timing, and the science of better sleep

  • The 7 types of rest and how to fill each intentionally

  •  Boundaries that protect your peace, focus, and productivity

    Recorded Live: 🎙️ WXXI Studio A, Rochester NY ✨ Aligned Entrepreneur Pod-A-Thon — Presented by JazzCast Pros

    💡 Resources Mentioned in This Episode

    • HealingHer Within Podcast with MaryAnn Rivera-Dannert 


    • START WITH SLEEP — Programs, workshops, and resources for better rest and recovery 👉 startwithsleep.com

      • Sleep Space App — Tracks your sleep patterns, learns your rhythms, and helps optimize your bedtime routine 👉 sleepspace.com
        • Find Your Chronotype — Take the quiz from Dr. Michael Breus, author of The Power of When, to learn your natural sleep rhythm 👉 thepowerofwhenquiz.com

        • 🎧 Referenced Episodes of The Doze Podcast

          • Morning Light Guide — Learn how to regulate your circadian rhythm naturally through light exposure

            • "Bedtime Begins at Breakfast" — Why your morning habits determine your nighttime rest

            • "Caffeine Hacks" — How to manage caffeine intake and boost your energy without wrecking your sleep

            • "Do You Lose if You Snooze?" — The truth about the snooze button and how to wake up feeling refreshed




              0:00 – Welcome to The Doze Live from WXXI Studio A

              0:35 – The New Hustle: Why Rest Is the Ultimate Self-Care

              2:05 – “I’ll Sleep When I’m Dead”: Busting the Restless Culture Myth

              3:20 – The Mental Load of Women in Leadership

              5:40 – The Power of Subtraction: Making Space for Wellness

              6:50 – Maryann’s Ayahuasca Journey & the Message to Rest

              9:00 – The Seven Types of Rest Explained

              12:20 – Discovering Your Chronotype: Bears, Wolves, Lions & Dolphins

              16:00 – Setting Boundaries Around Sleep & Mental Rest

              18:10 – Bedtime Begins at Breakfast: Light, Caffeine & Consistency

              23:20 – The Science of Napping & Sleep Cycles

              25:00 – Snooze Buttons, Sleep Disorders & Resetting Your Rhythm

              26:20 – Final Thoughts: Rest as a Radical Act for Entrepreneurs

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