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From co-founding an agency and running it for 12 years to bottoming out in burnout a decade ago, Carlos Hidalgo rebuilt his life around a simple reversal: decide the life you want first, then make work feed it. Author of The UnAmerican Dream, Carlos joins Jolie to get honest about the parts that don't make the highlight reel: the rock bottom that became his wake-up call, why he stopped chasing balance in favor of hard boundaries, and how a life measured in experiences beats one measured in stuff. His throughline: work makes a lousy god, you only get 168 hours a week, and joy is a daily choice, because our hard is most people's easy.
From the kid who got sent to detention for talking to a keynote speaker who now gets paid to do it across the globe, Larry Long Jr turned relentless energy into a career, and the misery he once hid behind a smile into the thing he teaches. Chief Energy Officer and author of JOLT!, Larry joins Jolie to get honest about the parts that don't make the highlight reel: the day his wife told him to stop faking the funk, the corporate unhappiness he masked with a "smile for a mile," and why the guy whose entire brand is energy still struggles to ask for help. His throughline: bringing the energy is a choice you make every day, but you can't fake your way out alone. It's okay to receive as much as you give.
From getting roasted by the head of sales for telling a client the truth to building three books and a whole career around radical honesty, Todd Caponi turned transparency into his entire operating system. Author of The Transparency Sale, Todd joins Jolie to get honest about the parts that don't make the highlight reel: the century-old sales books stacked in the museum behind him, the dog-boarding disaster that turned him into a "transparency lunatic," and why, on a mental health show, his most honest answer is that he's been lucky. His throughline: more information has never once made buying easier, the answer has always been service, and if the truth won't sell it, don't sell it.
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From an air mattress in her uncle's basement with negative 437 euros to her name to leading sales development teams at some of tech's best-known brands, Gabrielle Blackwell built a career on refusing to earn her worth by overcompensating for it. Sales and sales development leader, Gabrielle joins Jolie to get honest about the parts that don't make the highlight reel: the grandfather who went from driving a cab to one of IBM's most senior Black professionals in sales, the bipolar diagnosis that surfaced inside a hostile workplace, and the faith that finally took the number off her shoulders. Her throughline: you don't have to become someone else to succeed, you just have to honor how you're wired, meet people where they are, and let something bigger than the quota carry the weight.
From a small-town California kid who had never sold a thing to a VP of sales who built teams off the backs of people everyone else passed on, Scott Leese entered the professional world at 27, four years and a fight for his life into a hospitalization that split him into two people. Founder of Surf and Sales, Scott joins Jolie to get honest about the parts that don't make the highlight reel: the minor back surgery he had four hours before recording and did the episode anyway, the excuse factory he spent a career teaching reps to shut down, and why the only legacy he wants is a room full of people who show up and say "that guy helped me." His throughline: everyone's life is hard, the people who win just do the work anyway, and the legacy that lasts is the chance you took on someone nobody else would.
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From selling cars to two decades in SaaS, Nikki Ivey turned a writer’s love of words into a sales career—and a conviction that the people most skilled at moving others should be creating culture, not just complaining about it. A writer first, a LinkedIn Top Voice, and co-founder of SDRDefenders, Nikki joins Jolie to get honest about the parts of sales that don’t make the highlight reel: the wigs she spent years suppressing as the only Black woman in the room, the narratives that walk in before she does, and the extra work it takes to reach the same baseline of confidence a typical seller starts from. Along the way she reframes the meritocracy debate, separates structural exclusion from the interpersonal kind, and offers a way through the DEI backlash that asks nothing of your politics—only that you care how your behavior lands on someone else. Her throughline: you can criticize culture or you can create it, and sellers are built to create.
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Somewhere past 500 podcast episodes, hosting and guesting combined, and nobody had ever asked Richard Harris what talking about his mental health has cost him. Founder of The Harris Consulting Group, creator of N.E.A.T. Selling and author of The Seller’s Journey, Richard joins Jolie to trace it back to one morning in San Francisco when he woke up in the fetal position and physically could not move. What follows: the phone call to his mom, the sentence that kept him from getting on the plane, 20+ years with the same therapist, and imposter syndrome that shows up live on the recording. His throughline: you do you, and don’t be afraid to make the phone call.
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From 15+ years in professional kitchens to two decades in sales, James Buckley has built Say What Sales—a personal brand rooted in one line: if you're a salesperson, we're the same person. Founder of Say What Sales and host of the daily sales show Sell Better, James joins Jolie to get honest about the parts that don't make the highlight reel: an addiction that shifted from hard drugs to food, a 2006 ER visit that had his family relocated from Miami to Tennessee within 48 hours, and the 3 a.m. gym routine that's kept him steady through a recent type 2 diabetes diagnosis. His throughline: resilience isn't a personality trait, it's a choice you make over and over.
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From one-and-done author to accidental evangelist for a better way to work, Freddie Laker has spent a decade building Chameleon Collective, a four-time Inc. 5000 “collective” where everyone gets to be the boss and share the risk instead of one person throwing themselves in the fire. Founder of Chameleon Collective and co-author of the bestselling Collective Capitalism, Freddie joins Jolie to get honest about the parts that don’t make the highlight reel: why he preaches “no one should carry it alone” and still grabs the stressful hot potato himself, what actually scares him about AI, and the on-mic existential crisis when he realized he might be the last person who should talk about work-life balance. His throughline: there’s opportunity in chaos, but only if you stop trying to carry it alone.
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From the number one enterprise rep at Salesforce to a self-described "functioning addict" living a double life at the top of his game, Ian Koniak traces how a 20-year work-hard-play-hard grind nearly cost him his marriage and his family, and what it finally took to get sober. Founder and CEO of Untap Your Sales Potential, Ian joins Jolie to riff on the president's-club culture he lived and loved, why "the pain of staying the same has to be greater than the effort to change," the rock bottom that turned him around, and how honesty, faith, and recovery rebuilt a life he's actually proud of. His message for anyone white-knuckling a secret: pick your poison, there's a 12-step for it, and the opposite of addiction is connection.
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Revenue Mind is where revenue leaders take the game face off: real, raw stories proving mental health is a revenue metric, not a side quest. Host Jolie Shapiro sits down with CROs, CMOs, founders,…