Robert O’Brien, former U.S. ambassador and national security advisor to President Donald Trump, joins Klon Kitchen for a discussion of international politics from a bird’s-eye view. They discuss his time working for the former president, and the job of national security advisor. Plus: How can the United States protect itself from Chinese economic espionage? China’s threat to Taiwan? And what is the future of the war in Ukraine?

Show Notes:

-Uphill: The Showdown Over the China Competition Bill

-The Current: Ban TikTok Now

-The Current: Getting Smart on Intelligence

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