"It's not about the numbers, it's always about the aesthetics." Musician and actor Gary Kemp - of Spandau Ballet fame - traces the links between music and the mountains, and why so many musicians seem to take to two wheels. Gary, who became a keen cyclist after a dinner conversation with the broadcaster Robert Elms, explains his love for the hills, why he won't be riding the Etape again any time soon, and why he'll never be a slave to statistics. Ian Parkinson is also joined by Rouleur's Ian Cleverly, and technical editor Stuart Clapp - who's talking about lube. Don't encourage him.

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