It’s been a concern lurking in the minds of America’s leaders for a long time: what if Russia and China could successfully work together against the United States?

A combined Russo-China empire is the stuff of science fiction, perhaps, but what’s the reality today? What goals do they share and how well can they work together? 

And how does that cooperation affect the potential war in Ukraine?

To help us understand this situation we have Andrew Radin, who is a political scientist at the RAND Corporation. He researches European security, NATO, and Russia’s foreign and security policy.

Also joining me is Andrew Scobel.  is a distinguished fellow at the U.S. Institute of Peace, an adjunct political scientist at the RAND Corporation and an adjunct professor at the Georgetown School of Foreign Service.

They both worked on a RAND report called: China-Russia Cooperation Determining Factors, Future Trajectories, Implications for the United States

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