Empire

Ryan Selkis on the Existential Struggle for Crypto in the U.S.


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In this episode, Jason and Mike are joined by Ryan Selkis, Founder and CEO of Messari Crypto, for a discussion on the intersection of crypto and US politics. They discuss the recent presidential debate, Ryan’s journey into the political arena, and Sam Bankman-Fried’s impact on crypto regulatory policy. They also dive into the importance of political engagement from the crypto community, and Selkis’ strategic initiatives. Finally, they cover why Democrats took an anti-crypto stance, the best case outcome for crypto regulatory policy, and how U.S. political parties evolve over time.


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(00:00) Intro

(02:18) The Presidential Debate

(11:37) Focusing on Politics as a Crypto Founder

(27:19) SBF's Impact on Regulatory Policy

(33:15) How Important is Crypto in the Presidential Election? 

(36:200 Lead up to Ryan's Mar-a-Lago Visit

(43:37) Marinade Ad

(44:43) Polygon Ad

(45:52) Mantle Ad

(46:41) Ryan's Perspective on the Blockworks Op-ed

(54:39) Should Crypto Be Apolitical?

(01:05:29) The Democrats Motivation for Being Anti Crypto

(01:21:05) What's the Best Case Outcome for Crypto Regulatory Policy?

(01:32:09) Addressing Common Issues Voters Have With Trump 

(01:38:02) How U.S. Political Parties Change Over Time

(01:45:33) Why RFK Jr. Should Drop Out and Endorse Trump


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Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.


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