Bitcoin Takeover Podcast

S14 E4: Peter Todd vs Sergej Korliar on Full RBF


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Full RBF is one of the most controversial topics in Bitcoin. On one side, RBF creator Peter Todd lobbies for the feature to become a standard. On the other side, Bitrefill CEO Sergej Kotliar thinks RBF is bad for business. This is the RBF debate.
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Peter Todd is the creator of RBF and the biggest advocate for making every transaction enable the feature by default. He wrote this article to explain his point of view: https://petertodd.org/2023/why-you-should-run-mempoolfullrbf Sergej Korliar is the CEO of Bitrefill and an advocate for 0-confirmation transactions, as long as the receiver is willing to take the risk. He considers that full RBF effectively destroys the 0-confirmation use case, potentially slows down Bitcoin adoption and makes users migrate towards altcoins for commerce. This episode is a debate between the two perspectives. It also marks the first time in a while when the two of them sat down to talk and this fact is reflected on how tense the interaction became towards the end. Both participants agreed to record a second part of this debate, after gathering more information to either back up their claims or debunk their adversary's statements with data. –––––––––––––––––––––––––––– The Full RBF Debate [00:01:59] Peter Todd and Sergej Kotliar present their opposing views on RBF. Understanding Full RBF [00:03:00] Sergej explains the concept of full RBF and its impact on transaction replaceability and user experience. Reliability and Usefulness of RBF [00:06:26] Peter Todd counters Sergej's arguments, discussing the reliability and usefulness of full RBF in real-world scenarios. Full RBF and multiparty transactions [00:11:27] Discussion on the trade-offs of full RBF for multiparty transactions and the impact on transactions like Wasabi's CoinJoins. Benefits and inconveniences of on-chain payments [00:14:15] Debate on the trade-offs of using zero conf and the advantages and disadvantages of on-chain payments. The use of RBF for power users [00:19:35] Discussion on the usefulness of RBF for power users, programmatic transactions, and multi-party scenarios. [00:21:16] Discussion on the frequency of using RBF (Replace-By-Fee) in transactions and assumptions about exchange users. [00:23:06] The unpredictability of the bitcoin mempool and blocks, in relation to the need to bump fees. [00:26:37] Debate on the usage of zero-conf (zero confirmation) transactions and examples of merchants accepting them. [00:30:00] Discussion on the percentage of blockchain space used by low fees and the impact on usage. [00:30:59] Importance of rough consensus and the difficulty of making changes in the Bitcoin network. [00:38:48] Discussion about the reliability of zero-conf transactions and the real-world data supporting its usage. [00:39:13] Debate on the risk involved in accepting zero-conf transactions and the potential vulnerabilities. [00:45:14] Plans for a potential continuation of the discussion on the topic of zero-conf transactions in a future episode.
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