Andrew Bartlett is a lawyer, judge, and international arbitrator. He has a degree in theology from University of Gloucestershire. He has served in several churches as elder or churchwarden and is the author of book Men and Women in Christ: Fresh Light from the Biblical Texts, which forms the starting point for our conversation on what the New Testament says about women in church leadership. We focus on 1 Corinthians 11, the meaning of kephale (“head”) from 1 Corinthians 11:3 and Ephesians 5:22-24, and we also dabble briefly in 1 Timothy 2:12-14.