Douglas Bakkum and Jonas Schnelli are the two founders of the ShiftCrypto company – one of the most significant players on the hardware wallet market. The newly launched BitBox02 has lots of interesting features and finds the middle ground between security, privacy, and user friendliness. 

In an interesting segment, Douglas also agrees to say something nice and something critical about the most significant competitors (Trezor, Ledger, KeepKey, Coldcard).

Also, an interesting discussion about responsible disclosures and the general security level of hardware wallet devices emerges.

If you want to better understand the dynamics and collaborative practices behind the world of Bitcoin hardware wallets, then this is certainly a must-listen.