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In this episode of The Riley Black Project, John and Crystal sit down with Joshua Perry, the award-winning creative behind Perry Design Tulsa — a laser business born from a long career in the salon industry. ✂️➡️🔥

Joshua shares his inspiring transition from 22 years as a salon owner to running a thriving design and laser engraving studio known for its next-level branding work, stunning shop décor, and signature custom pieces.

We talk about:
 ✨ How a salon background built the perfect foundation for client trust and design success
 ✨ The creative spark behind Perry Design’s signature laser workspace aesthetic
 ✨ Tips for balancing multiple businesses, parenting, and creative burnout
 ✨ The fine line between personal relationships and professional sales
 ✨ How networking, community, and meetups can change your maker journey forever
 ✨ Why sand carving is making a comeback — and how it compares to laser engraving

This one’s packed with laughs, lessons, and maker motivation — from crashing your first laser head (we’ve all done it 😂) to mastering business relationships and chasing new creative outlets.

🎙️ Stay to the end for Perry Design’s exclusive discount code for The Riley Black Project listeners!

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