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We talk a lot about the emotional stress and shock of caring for someone with SMI, but what about the financial shock? Is debt an issue? How does your loved one handle money? How do you get services? Do the wealthy have better support? Do families have to go broke to have support, and what is the additional emotional effect of money on the family mental health?

Savannah Price, in the UK, is doing research on this - and today we turn the tables and let her interview us. 

Savannah is building a company to improve the mental and financial resilience of young people with mental health problems by targeting the vicious cycle between money management and poor mental health.

We talk about:

• financial shocks
•  the vicious cycle between poor mental health and dysregulated spending
•  financial literacy
• Family responsibility
• And look at another, international, health system of “care”

About Savannah:

Savannah is originally from South Africa, but moved to the UK for university. She started her career as a geologist before launching an Equestrian competition and sales business in Ireland. She most recently completed her MBA at the University of Oxford and is starting a company in Mental Health. 

She has a strong history of mental illness and disability in her family - she has a sister with schizophrenia, another with bipolar and her youngest sister has autism with significant learning disabilities.

Given her lived experience, she is currently doing research into how money and mental health are interrelated, and how having serious mental health problems impacts families financially and emotionally.

Not only do many mental health problems result in financial strain for young people and their families, but ultimately the breakdown of supporting relationships over time. 

To address these problems, we are working to develop personal “relapse signatures” for young people who suffer from dysregulated financial behaviours due to mental health problems such as personality disorders, bipolar, psychosis, depression, anxiety, gambling, substance use disorders and ADHD. 

We do this by overlaying spending patterns with other data you can get from a mobile phone, to track symptoms of poor mental health. 

This then allows us to tailor products and services according to their goals/needs, and improve wellbeing, both financial and otherwise. 

What it can also do, is give their loved ones insight into our users' mental and financial state in real-time, to flag risk and possibly intervene before there is a crisis - all the while advocating for agency and empowerment. Our mission is to blaze the trail for preventative healthcare through behavioural finance.

If anyone wants to learn more or to get involved with the research and product design - they are more than welcome to reach me on [email protected], or my LinkedIn.

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Rachel Streiff: Mental Health Advocate, Mentor to SMI Caregivers, Data analyst for Team Daniel Running for Recovery from mental illness, (Dr. Robert Laitman’s organization),  chemical and biomedical engineer with a legacy six sigma black belt certification - Mother of our guest in episode 22, who is currently a full-time college student.

If you enjoyed her son's story in Episode 22,  hear his Mom's side of the advocacy and how she insisted on the best available care - a standard some practitioners do not follow. A very powerful hour.

Links:

[email protected]

TeamDanielRunningForRecovery.org

Clozapine facebook page

Team Daniel facebook page

SZ 3 Moms Facebook page

Get on the mailing list:

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Dr. Laitman’s Book:

https://www.amazon.com/MEANINGFUL-RECOVERY-Schizophrenia-Serious-Clozapine/dp/172748424X

New finger-prick Point-of-service test

Who Are the 3 Moms?

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Randye Kaye -Broadcaster, Actress, Voice Talent, Speaker, and Author (“Ben Behind his Voices”, Happier Made Simple)

Miriam Feldman – Artist, Mom, Author “He Came in With It”

Mindy Greiling – member of the Minnesota House of Representatives for twenty years. Activist, Legislator, Author (“Fix What You Can“)

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“Does anybody have a map?...” - a lyric from the show Dear Evan Hansen, sung by the parents of the show’s adolescent children.

If you are a “Mom in the Trenches” of serious mental illness in your child, you also know the feeling - all too well .

Judith R. Smith, (mother, psychotherapist, professor, researcher on women’s issues as they age) noticed that the topic of mothering challenging adult kids was a topic that had no map - at least on the bookshelves.

So she researched, and wrote one, and it’s available this month.

We ask:

• Why this book?
• What did you learn in your research and interviews with mothers of challenging adult children?
• What does shame have to do with it?
• “ Unpaid and unrecognized maternal caregiving work continues to limit women’s quality of life” - what can mothers do to help themselves?
• Did you learn any tips for helping or handling our challenging adult kids?

“Difficult brings to life the conflicts that arise for mothers who are confronted with the unexpected, burdensome, and even catastrophic dependencies of their adult children associated with mental illness, substance use, or chronic unemployment”

Links:

Amazon - get the book!

Twitter: @JudithRSmithPhd

Judith’s facebook page: Difficult Mothering

[email protected]

Difficult Mothering Website

JASA - for aging services in NYC 

Who Are the 3 Moms?

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Randye Kaye -Broadcaster, Actress, Voice Talent, Speaker, and Author (“Ben Behind his Voices”, Happier Made Simple)

Miriam Feldman – Artist, Mom, Author “He Came in With It”

Mindy Greiling – member of the Minnesota House of Representatives for twenty years. Activist, Legislator, Author (“Fix What You Can“)

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 Focus on BIPOC Mental Health Challenges and Outreach - guest, Sabah Muhammad, DJ Jaffe Advocate

Sabah has a brother with mental illness, and is an advocate for him, and more: she  is legislative and policy counsel with Treatment Advocacy Center (see episode 31).

SMI is challenging enough, but what does racial inequality add to the picture? Sabah references one of her favorite quotes: "Racism isn't the shark in the water, it is the water." 
Or: is it more like smog, that we can each do something to help clear?

According to evermindgroup.com, 

“Black, indigenous, and people of color (BIPOC) are impacted both in terms of increased risk for mental health problems and in their access to mental health care. Unfortunately, systemic barriers and inequities prevent those in BIPOC communities from receiving the behavioral health treatment they need. When BIPOC communities are disproportionately affected during moments of national crisis, this problem is exacerbated. “

Is the system imbalanced? Biased?

Let’s find out.

Questions:

1. Tell us your story and why you do the work you do.
2. Tell us about your recent report on inequities in diversion programs.
3. What other inequities do you see?
4. Does the current mental health system's often poor treatment of families especially harm families of color?
5. Are there any ways our podcast could be more welcoming to BIPOC people? Should we publicize your podcast in any way? If so, how?

Links:

https://www.nami.org/Your-Journey/Identity-and-Cultural-Dimensions

https://www.treatmentadvocacycenter.org/

Who Are the 3 Moms?

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Randye Kaye -Broadcaster, Actress, Voice Talent, Speaker, and Author (“Ben Behind his Voices”)

Miriam Feldman – Artist, Mom, Author “He Came in With It”

Mindy Greiling – member of the Minnesota House of Representatives for twenty years. Activist, Legislator, Author (“Fix What You Can“)

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 An Acid Trip in college led to “never feeling the same again” - to actions to feed drug habits, to inner thoughts of suicide and harm, a diagnosis of schizophrenia, treatment - and now, a Master's Degree and full-time work.

The 3 Moms ask Ryan the questions our sons aren’t ready to answer.

• What does psychosis feel like?
• What is the effect of weed on your symptoms?
• Do you tell potential new friends you have schizophrenia?
• What support helps you? Family? Friends?
• What are your “extended thoughts” like?
• Why did you ask for voluntary hospital stay?
• What advice would you give others with sz? What would a peer support network mean to you?

Ryan says:

“Being diagnosed with schizophrenia was my second chance at life in a very, very weird way.”

“Paranoia can be a deep, dark road, especially if you’re not aware of it. ”

“I'm very happy with where I'm at. It's enough, where I can recognize that I have an illness and that I am hallucinating but not enough where my hallucinations run my life.”

“The great part about reality is that it’s shared. I was not sharing with other people.”   

" I will continue to listen to your podcast to understand the struggle my family goes through. In bits in pieces, of course, because too much of that at once could be an overload."

What helps Ryan: Advice to others with schizophrenia:

• Take your meds (when dosage reduced, hallucinations increase)
• Don’t smoke weed.
• Practice mindfulness. -  be aware of your “voices” and get out of your head.
• “You’re a genius. And I mean that people are always going to treat you like you're different, and you are. It takes an incredibly strong person to go through what you're going through. And it's not going to be easy, but God put that on you, for a reason and you're strong you're intelligent. One day you'll have the strength to confront your paranoia. Until then rely on your family, rely on your friends, rely on the people around you. It's okay to not be okay, but it's okay to be okay, too, and one day you'll be okay, I promise.”

Who Are the 3 Moms?

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Randye Kaye -Broadcaster, Actress, Voice Talent, Speaker, and Author (“Ben Behind his Voices”)

Miriam Feldman – Artist, Mom, Author “He Came in With It”

Mindy Greiling – member of the Minnesota House of Representatives for twenty years. Activist, Legislator, Author (“Fix What You Can“)

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“Housing…employment…daytime structure. There needs to be something for people in between all those medical appointments in order to really have a positive meaningful life.” -  Guest Mary Guerrera, Exec. director 

After hospitalization - what? Many people with mental health issues, and their families, struggle to find answers to that question.

What would true support and community look like? What is possible?

Fellowship Place in New Haven, CT has the following mission statement:

Mission Statement

To serve adults living with mental illness by offering a full range of therapeutic support and rehabilitation services that promote independence, wellness, and a meaningful life.

Our guest today is Mary Guerrara, Executive Director of Fellowship Place.

Terms to know:

HUD = Housing and Urban Development

NAMI = National Alliance on Mental Illness

NIMBY = “not in my back yard” 

We ask:

1. What is Fellowship place? Mission and how you make it work .What is it like there? 
2. Your personal story - why do you do this work?
3. How is it funded?
4. How can someone get a placement?
5. What are the challenges? 
6. How can families help? -  ADVOCACY. Fight for research. etc.

Quotes: from Mary

“You can’t take no for an answer” 

“The most significant thing that I have found in my career is how you can't just rely on the government, you can't just rely on professionals, you really need a partnership.”

“Families can advocate for more funding to be able to develop projects that combine all of these elements:  affordability, support services, and a peer support network.”

“There needs to be something for people in between all those medical appointments in order to really have a positive meaningful life.”

Links: 

https://fellowshipplace.org/ 

Pathways:

https://pways.org/

Who Are the 3 Moms?

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Randye Kaye -Broadcaster, Actress, Voice Talent, Speaker, and Author (“Ben Behind his Voices”)

Miriam Feldman – Artist, Mom, Author “He Came in With It”

Mindy Greiling – member of the Minnesota House of Representatives for twenty years. Activist, Legislator, Author (“Fix What You Can“)

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What if: the mental health system would pay more attention, take more steps to help , before tragedy, violence, or crime finally calls attention to symptoms of SMI (serious mental illness)?

What if Darrell Brooks (charged with murder after plowing his mother’s car into a parade in Wisconsin) had been helped, and treated, instead of ignored or imprisoned? His mother, Dawn Woods, wrote a letter to the media. She, too, is a “mom in the trenches”. So is journalist/advocate/mindfulness coach Jerri Clark, our guest for this episode.

What if Jerri’s son Calvin had received treatment, despite his “civil right ”to refuse it - although the refusal itself is a symptom of his illness?

She says: 

 “I watched my son delivered into society’s underbelly by design. He spent months homeless, met law enforcement again and again, and tried multiple times to die. These traumas are part of a tragic inventory of the requirements for public assistance when someone has a serious mental illness”

Her son Calvin was 23 when he died from suicide March 18, 2019. 

She is the founder of MOMI–Mothers of the Mentally Ill, and talks with us about her family story, and her path to purpose and redefining her life - and Calvin’s life.

Links:

Pete earley’s post:

http://www.peteearley.com/2019/01/14/a-poignant-pbs-segment-jerri-clark-describes-her-familys-struggle-to-get-help-for-son-with-his-mental-illness/

PBS link: (Brief But Spectacular segment on PBS news hour)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ozj7TvpDHI 

Jerri’s Story:

https://kansasalumnimagazine.org/my-sons-story/

Who Are the 3 Moms?

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Randye Kaye -Broadcaster, Actress, Voice Talent, Speaker, and Author (“Ben Behind his Voices”)

Miriam Feldman – Artist, Mom, Author “He Came in With It”

Mindy Greiling – member of the Minnesota House of Representatives for twenty years. Activist, Legislator, Author (“Fix What You Can“)

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Lack of involuntary treatment, hospital bed shortages, anosognosia, criminalization of mental illness, public service costs…

Where do we turn when we need to change the system of mental illness treatment? How to break open the barriers? How do we advocate for change?

The Treatment Advocacy Center is a national 501(c)3 nonprofit organization dedicated to eliminating legal and other barriers to the timely and effective treatment of severe mental illness.  

The organization promotes laws, policies and practices for the delivery of psychiatric care and supports the development of innovative treatments for and research into the causes of severe and persistent psychiatric illnesses, such as schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. The Stanley Medical Research Institute is a fully integrated supporting organization to the Treatment Advocacy Center. 

Ex. Dir. Lisa Dailey , Treatment Advocacy Center -

Lisa Dailey is the executive director of the Treatment Advocacy Center, leading an energetic team to improve state and federal civil commitment laws and promote evidence-based policies to positively affect those with severe mental illness. Lisa joined the Treatment Advocacy Center in 2015, bringing many years of nonprofit policy and advocacy experience. Her prior work includes the representation of refugees seeking asylum in the United States and many years of experience as a litigator in the areas of human rights and civil liberties.

1. Lisa’s personal story about why she advocates for people with serious mental illness
2. What are the main issues facing those with serious mental illness and their families? -
3. Why was the Treatment Advocacy Center (TAC) started? How has it evolved?
4. An inside glimpse of Dr. E. Fuller Torrey, TAC’s founder, author ofSurviving Schizophrenia
5. What has TAC had the most success with? (Thank you for your advocacy to ensure people like our sons could get COVID vaccines.) What has been hardest?
6. Tell us about TAC’s Grading the States. We’re from Connecticut, Minnesota and Washington.
7. What is TAC’s relationship with NAMI?
8. Recently hired a parent advocate, Kathy Day. What will she be doing that is new to TAC?

Links:

Twitter: @lisadaileyTAC

 Sign up for Research Weekly, new legislative Advocacy newsletter, more

https://www.treatmentadvocacycenter.org/

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Randye Kaye -Broadcaster, Actress, Voice Talent, Speaker, and Author (“Ben Behind his Voices”)

Miriam Feldman – Artist, Mom, Author “He Came in With It”

Mindy Greiling – member of the Minnesota House of Representatives for twenty years. Activist, Legislator, Author (“Fix What

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Guest Joel Corcoran, Executive Director of Clubhouse International

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Clubhouse International:

A Clubhouse is an evidence-based-practice founded on the belief that even the most disabled can sufficiently recover and improve their lives with the help of a supportive community. The Clubhouse model provides pathways to meaningful social inclusion, work and wellbeing. First developed in New York in 1948 by a small group of former psychiatric hospital patients, the model has gained international recognition, scaling to more than 350 Clubhouses operating in 32 countries and growing.

“We help start and grow Clubhouses globally where people with mental illness can go to get their lives back.

There simply are not enough resources today for everyone with a mental illness who needs help. It’s a crisis situation and the numbers are growing.

Clubhouses powerfully demonstrate that people with mental illness can and do lead productive, happy lives. Each Clubhouse we open reaches +/- 500 

1. How does the Clubhouse program fit into the larger mental health system?
2. Sometimes the Clubhouse program is referred to as a peer led program. Is that accurate?
3. What kind of things does a Clubhouse do for someone living with mental illness?
4. What can a person joining a Clubhouse for the first time expect? 
5. Who is eligible for Clubhouse membership and what is expected of those who belong?
6. What is the long term vision of Clubhouse International?
7. How do Clubhouses get started?

Links:

https://clubhouse-intl.org/

Mindy talks about efforts to create a clubhouse in her state:
https://my.nicheacademy.com/rcladult/course/59353/lesson/169660

Who Are the 3 Moms?

Randye Kaye -Broadcaster, Actress, Voice Talent, Speaker, and Author (“Ben Behind his Voices”)

Miriam Feldman – Artist, Mom, Author “He Came in With It”

Mindy Greiling – member of the Minnesota House of Representatives for twenty years. Activist, Legislator, Author (“Fix What You Can“)

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Getting personal on this episode about the effects of addiction (drugs or alcohol) on the family - and the double challenge when it co-occurs with SMI (Serios Mental Illness) - in our sons’ cases: schizophrenia.

Are we ever really out of the woods? Are our loved ones?

What can we do? What must we let go of?

The 3 moms get personal here. Solutions? We wish we had some - but we do share ideas of actions and attitude. 

Maybe you’ll hear your story inside of ours. You are not alone.

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What is dual diagnosis? (Co-occuring disorder)

What works? What doesn’t? - 

• “Harm reduction” treatment?
• 12-step programs?

Why is it so hard?

• Similar symptoms - delayed SMI diagnosisGrief
• Grief, Lost Trust, lost time
• Relapse disappointment
• Stronger drugs now 

What can the family do?

• “Trust, but verify” - blood tests, Urine tests
• Set your boundaries/rewards/consequences 
• Do what works - even if your break the rules you thought you knew
• Balance of letting go/stepping in
• Support a healthier community and purposeful activity for our loved ones
• Get support or help for yourself (the family) - AlAnon? Therapy?
• “Know that you’re dealing with something unknowable, and do the best you can” (Mimi)
• Look for Integrated Care for your loved one - treats both diagnoses together
• Keep watching carefully
• Be aware (and providers be aware) that what looks like “just substance abuse” may indeed be early symptoms of SMI - alert the family

Links:

Dr. Laitman - listen to our episode 18, June 2021

Samhsa has resources: 1-800-662-HELP

https://www.samhsa.gov/families

NAMI:

www.nami.org

https://nami.org/About-Mental-Illness/Common-with-Mental-Illness/Substance-Use-Disorders

Cedar Ridge: https://www.meridianprograms.com/program/cedar-ridge-mens-residential-stillwater-mn/

NAMI Family-to-Family

https://nami.org/Support-Education/Mental-Health-Education/NAMI-Family-to-Family

Book: Beautiful Boy

https://www.amazon.com/Beautiful-Boy-Fathers-Journey-Addiction/dp/0547203888

Who Are the 3 Moms?

Randye Kaye -Broadcaster, Actress, Voice Talent, Speaker, and Author (“Ben Behind his Voices”)

Miriam

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