Scripture Untangled

Listen to June Hur, best-selling and award-winning author, being interviewed by Joanna la Fleur. In this episode, June talks about her passion for literature, and how discovering forgotten Korean history would form a foundation for writing best-selling YA Korean historicals. June also reveals how her Christian faith has shaped her storytelling and how Scripture has guided her path as a writer.

In this episode, June and Joanna discuss: 

• How June Hur blends Korean history with mystery fiction to create immersive young adult novels. 
• June’s writing being rejected over a 100 times, and how she found her true writer’s voice. 
• Writing strong women into Korean history, and how June gives voice to brave women who were overlooked in the past. 
• What it felt like when June won the prestigious Edgar Award, and her work was recognized on the world stage. 
• Why June decided to be open about her Christian faith as an author. 
• Writing about brave characters and how it inspires June to live more courageously herself. 
• From the Bible to C.S. Lewis and Tim Keller, and how Christian thinkers and writers quietly shaped June’s worldview. 

Read the transcript: biblesociety.ca/transcript-scripture-untangled-s11-ep8

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June Hur (허주은) is a New York Times best-selling and Edgar Award-winning author of YA Korean historicals. Born in South Korea, June spent her formative years in the USA, Canada, and South Korea before studying History and Literature at the University of Toronto and working at the city’s public library.  

Her work has been featured in Forbes, NPR, The New York Times, CBC, Vogue Korea, and KBS. 

She resides in Toronto with her family. 

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Listen to Dr. Paul Bendor-Samuel, Executive Director of the Oxford Centre for Mission Studies being interviewed by CBS Ambassador, Rev. Dr. Andrew Stirling. In this episode, Paul talks about the generations of missionaries in his lineage, and how this influenced his path to becoming a doctor and integrating faith and medicine on the mission field.

In this episode, Paul and Andrew discuss:

• Dr. Paul Bendor-Samuel’s life from growing up in the mission fields, to becoming a physician, missionary, and Executive Director of the Oxford Centre for Mission Studies.
• His legacy of faith and calling - Paul traces his family story from his Jewish refugee great-grandfather who met Christ, to the generations of missionaries in his family who dedicated themselves to Bible translation and cross-cultural ministry.
• Paul’s calling to medicine and mission, and how this paved his way to serving people outside traditional ministry spaces, and intertwining healing and mission with his calling.
• Redefining development work, and what "Christian development" means to missions with local communities.
• How the Oxford Centre for Mission Studies equips global Christian leaders to shape theology rooted in their own cultures.
• The growing spiritual openness among young people in Europe and North America.
• What Western Christians can learn from believers in the rest of the world — bold faith, joy, and community.

Read the transcript: biblesociety.ca/transcript-scripture-untangled-s11-ep7

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Paul spent the first 10 years of his life in Brazil and West Africa, the son of missionary parents. He studied medicine in Cardiff, Wales, where he met his wife, Liz, also a doctor. In preparation for cross-cultural mission they did two years theological and missiological training and then served in Tunisia for 12 years, first in primary health care and rural development and then for seven years as Executive Director of the joint mission agency L ‘Association de Cooperation en Tunisie (ACT - actdev.org). During our life in Tunisia, we were privileged to see God building his church again in that country after fourteen centuries without an indigenous church. 

In 2003, Paul became International Director of Interserve (interserve.org), moving to Malaysia in 2005. Between 2003 and 2015 Paul led the organisation through two major change processes, the first organisational, the second missiological.

In 2016, Paul became Executive Director of the Oxford Centre for Mission Studies (OCMS - ocms.ac.uk). OCMS is a global hub, based in Oxford, UK, that seeks to enable the church to participate more fully in God’s mission through rigorous research and applied scholarship. 

Paul enjoys preaching, teaching and has published a number of articles and two books on mission and organisational spirituality.

Paul and Liz have been married for over 40 years, have four sons, three daughter-in-laws and five grandchildren.

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Listen to Dr. Marion Taylor, a best-selling author, Professor of Old Testament and Graduate Director at Wycliffe College, University of Toronto, being interviewed by seasoned journalist Lorna Dueck. In this episode, Dr. Marion Taylor discusses the books she has written, her research and the discovery of the many women who interpreted Scripture and helped to influence generations with God’s Word.

In this episode, Marion and Lorna discuss:

• Dr. Marion Taylor's books and research in discovering the influence of women interpreting Scripture, from as early as the year 320.
• How a biblical interpreter is defined as anyone who engages Scripture through letters, poetry, art, or other creative expression.
• The impact of Harriet Beecher Stowe, who was a Biblical Interpreter that used novels like Uncle Tom’s Cabin to preach and teach Biblical truth beyond the pulpit.
• Forgotten women writers who have been revealed through the years and the research journey that uncovered diaries, commentaries, and Scriptural interpretations long buried in archives.
• Courageous interpreters of the Reformation like Katarina Zell who boldly defended clergy marriage, wrote pastoral letters, and ministered side by side with their husbands.
• Florence Nightingale’s annotated Bible and how it reveals how she wrestled with faith, science, and Scripture in her private notes.
• Henrietta Mears’ 20th-century influence and how she helped shape Billy Graham and a whole generation of leaders.
• Powerful lessons for women today found by learning about the foremothers of faith who empower and challenge narrow narratives about women’s roles.
• Passing faith to our children in the home and using Scripture through song, story, and family life.

Read the transcript: biblesociety.ca/transcript-scripture-untangled-s11-ep6

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PhD (Yale)BA (Toronto), MA (Toronto), MDiv (Knox/Toronto), STM, MPhil

Marion Taylor grew up in Toronto and began her academic studies at the University of Toronto. Questions about how to negotiate the worlds of faith and the academic study of the Bible pushed her to pursue an MA in Near Eastern Studies and a Master of Divinity degree. Ultimately her journey took her to Yale University, where her interest in the history of the interpretation of the Bible was solidified. Under the direction of Brevard Childs, she wrote her doctoral thesis on the history of Old Testament studies as they developed at Princeton Seminary from 1812 to 1929.

At Yale in a class on apocalyptic literature, Marion met her husband Glen. Glen was from Calgary, but they returned to Toronto to teach at Wycliffe College. With Glen as residence dean, they lived at the College while raising three children and continuing to teach.

Marion’s interests in the Old Testament are broad. She teaches a variety of courses, including Introduction to the Old Testament, Jeremiah, Psalms, Old Testament Theology, Reading Scripture through the Ages, Bad Boys and Bad Girls in the Bible, the Books of Esther and Ruth, and Women Interpreters of the Bible. Most recently she has focused on forgotten women interpreters of the Bible.

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Watch or listen to Gary Thomas, a best-selling author and international speaker being interviewed by Joanna la Fleur. In this episode Gary talks about his success as an author who has sold over 2 million copies, and how the truth of Scripture has kept him anchored. He explores this further in his new book, The Life You Were Reborn to Live, where he exposes the 12 lies that rob our intimacy with God, and how the truth of Scripture can transform us by the renewing of our mind.

In this episode, Gary and Joanna discuss:

• Gary's calling, his writing, and ministry focus which is at the heart of his work as an author on spiritual formation and relationships.
• Gary’s ministry motto which is, "The closer we draw to Christ, the more deeply we’re able to love others", whether in marriage, family, or friendships.
• His latest book, The Life You Were Reborn to Live, which reveals 12 common lies that rob believers of joy, peace, and intimacy with God.
• Romans 12 and how renewing our minds leads to true peace - rooted not in circumstances, but in relationships and God’s Spirit.
• Why Christians should embrace the reality of the supernatural, including the often-overlooked role of angels, and how this fuels a deeper spiritual adventure.
• The entitlement mentality and how we're told by Jesus that there will be persecution in this world, but that He has rescued us from a lifetime of slavery to sin, and eternal death, so every (good) little thing is an extra blessing. 

Read the transcript: biblesociety.ca/transcript-scripture-untangled-s11-ep5

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Gary Thomas is a bestselling author and international speaker whose ministry brings people closer to Christ and closer to others. He unites the study of Scripture, church history, and the Christian classics to foster spiritual growth and deeper relationships within the Christian community. 

Gary is the author of numerous books that together have sold over two million copies, have been translated into more than a dozen languages, and won numerous awards . His writings have established him as a thought-leader in the areas of marriage, parenting, and spiritual formation.

Gary holds a B.A. in English Literature from Western Washington University, an MA degree in systematic theology from Regent College (Vancouver, BC), and an honorary Doctor of Divinity degree from Western Seminary (Portland, OR). 

He served on the teaching team at Second Baptist Church, Houston for 11 years and is currently on the teaching team at Cherry Hills Community Church in Highlands Ranch, CO. Gary is also an adjunct faculty member at Western Seminary in Portland, Oregon and was previously an adjunct faculty member at Houston Theological Seminary in Houston, Texas.

Gary’s speaking ministry has led him to speak in all 50 states and nine different countries, and on numerous national television and radio programs, including multiple appearances on Focus on the Family and Family Life Today. Gary’s interviews on Focus on the Family have been chosen among the “Best of 2013, 2014, 2017, and 2021.” Gary is a lifelong advocate of using the Christian classics to bring people closer to Christ.

Learn more about Gary Thomas: garythomas.com/about-gary/

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Listen to Malcolm Guite, an English poet, singer-songwriter, Anglican priest and academic, being interviewed by Rev. Dr. Andrew Stirling. In this episode, Malcolm leads us on a journey of how he discovered faith through the influence of poetry and Scripture. And how finding his purpose in life was by using his gift and love of literature, poetry and Scripture, to help kindle people’s imagination for Christ.

In this interview, Malcolm and Andrew discuss:

• Malcolm's early life growing up in Nigeria and then him moving to Canada with his family, where his formative years were shaped as the son of a minister.
• His teenage years and how he was impacted by the John Keats poem, Ode to a Nightingale which helped direct his path toward God and literature.
• How an encounter with the presence of God in college while reading the Psalms aloud had a profound impact on Malcolm’s life.
• The way Malcolm’s sonnets skillfully integrate Scripture and poetic work, exploring God in a deeper way.
• Malcolm’s purpose as a poet and minister to kindle people’s imagination for Christ through his love of poetry, language, and Scripture.

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Malcolm Guite is an English poet, singer-songwriter, Anglican priest, and academic. Guite earned degrees from Cambridge and Durham universities. His research interests include the intersection of religion and the arts, and the examination of the works of J.R.R. Tolkien, C.S. Lewis and Owen Barfield, and British poets such as Samuel Taylor Coleridge. He was a Bye-Fellow and chaplain of Girton College, Cambridge and associate chaplain of St. Edward King and Martyr, Cambridge.  On several occasions, he has taught as visiting faculty at several colleges and universities in England and North America.

Guite is the author of five books of poetry, including two chapter books and three full-length collections, as well as several books on Christian faith and theology. Guite has a decisively simple, formalist style in poems, many of which are sonnets, and he stated that his aim is to “be profound without ceasing to be beautiful”. Guite performs as a singer and guitarist fronting the Cambridgeshire-based blues, rhythm and blues, and rock band Mystery Train. He also has a YouTube channel where he shares his passions and musings with his viewers.

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Watch or listen to Darren Young, President of Power to Change (P2C) and a member of our CBS Board of Directors, being interviewed by Joanna la Fleur. In this episode, Darren shares about the great impact of Scripture on his life - in guiding his decisions and steps, and how it now guides his leadership of P2C. It's a pivotal time and Darren is seeing a rising generation who are spiritually open to the Gospel. He wants to encourage and equip the Church and other organizations to help people, especially this generation, know Jesus and experience His power.

In this interview, Darren and Joanna discuss:

• God called Darren to a life of ministry through Scripture when he heard Crawford Loretz speak about 1 John 1:5 at a conference - that God is light and in Him there is no darkness - no darkness at all. 
• Power to Change’s ministry is reaching college and university students and Darren goes on to say that this is a pivotal time when these students are in the midst of making important life decisions. 
• Cultural moments are pointing this generation to Jesus and Darren shares that there is a call for them to be very spiritually open to God’s story and to hear it in a fresh way.
• There are three key ingredients to sharing faith that Darren talks about - inspiration, equipping and community, but he goes on to say that typically only the first two are focused upon.
• Darren prays for the next generation, that they will be the ones who will see the greatest breakthrough any of us have ever experienced.

Read the transcript: biblesociety.ca/transcript-scripture-untangled-s11-ep3

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Darren Young joined the CBS Board of  Directors in October 2023. He was captured by the mission of God through the ministry of Campus Crusade for Christ (CCC), as a student of Simon Fraser University. It was there that God captured him with a life burden to help people know Jesus. He joined staff with CCC and for the next eight years he served as the Chief Financial Officer and Director of Leadership Development and Human Resources. 

In 2006, God gripped Darren’s heart for the local church, where he spent the next 13 years preaching God’s Word, shepherding a congregation, and igniting people to evangelism at Town and Field Church in Langley, BC. During his time pastoring, he was heavily involved with Leadership Network (LN), and in 2019 he joined LN as the Chief Operation Officer, and then Acting CEO. 

In 2020 he also helped pioneer an organization called Executive Leadership Solutions. Darren returned to his roots in June of 2021, when God called him back to Power to Change (P2C) as President. 

Over the last four years, it has been Darren’s great joy to lead P2C into a new season of faithfully stewarding the mission that God entrusted to Power to Change so many years ago. Darren has been married to his redheaded sweetheart for 25 years and together they have two amazing boys - Taylor (22) and Matthew (21). He loves coaching and cheering his boys on in sports, running marathons, watching movies with his family, and taking his dog Gus for evening walks.

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Listen to Bishop Linda Adams, Bishop of the Free Methodist Church in Canada, being interviewed by veteran journalist Lorna Dueck. Bishop Linda Adams served the Free Methodist Church in the US for 32 years and then was elected to serve as Bishop of the Free Methodist Church in Canada in 2024. In this episode she talks about walking alongside the Free Methodist Church to build connections and prioritize cross-cultural relationships across Canada, and how the Bible has equipped her to care for vulnerable children and fuels her mission.

In this interview Linda and Lorna discuss:

• Going from strength to strength, like the pilgrims on the journey to Zion in Psalm 84, Linda shares that she has gotten stronger, feels like she knows Jesus better than she ever did and has as much energy for ministry as she did 20 years ago. 
• The Bible equipped Linda to care for vulnerable children since she was a teen. There were Bible passages she couldn't get away from - especially those where Jesus welcomed and blessed the children like in Matthew 18:6 and Exodus 2:2-10.
• Walking alongside the Free Methodist Church, Linda is building connections and prioritizing cross-cultural relationships across Canada's diverse landscape. 
• The Bible fuels her challenging work by starting every morning with Seedbed Daily Text and a hymn, and uses a Bible app to read and/or listen to Scripture. 
• Although Church attendance is declining, Linda sees hope. She sees God still moving in people's lives and churches being re-energized.
• Linda gives advice to the younger people and encourages them to trust God to help them find their path. She explains that God made you and knows you best and loves you most. You can simply say, "Here I am" and then let God lead you one step at a time along your path, and you'll get stronger as you go.

Read the transcript: biblesociety.ca/transcript-scripture-untangled-s11-ep2

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Bishop Linda Adams serves as the Bishop of the Free Methodist Church in Canada. She was elected in March 2024, after she had served the Free Methodist Church in the US for 32 years, most recently in the role of Bishop (2019-2023). Bishop Linda Adams is a graduate of Spring Arbor University (BA 1977) and Asbury Theological Seminary (MDiv 1991; D.Min. 2000).

Bishop Linda is married to John Carter Adams. They have two adult children, Nate (married to Lauren) and Carrie (about to be married to Leo). Nate and Lauren’s daughter Isobel is a joy and an endless source of delight for her “Mimi” and “Baba.”  

Bishop Linda envisions a future where churches come alive with contagious spiritual vitality, and where pastors and people are filled with passion for the mission of Jesus – resulting in new believers becoming disciples who make disciples across Canada and beyond.

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Listen to Joel Augé, Chief Growth Officer at Crossroads being interviewed by veteran journalist Lorna Dueck. In this episode, Joel talks about Royal Anthems, a new project which aims to cultivate the spiritual movement that is happening and reinvigorate Canadian worship music production by unifying, distributing, and building infrastructure for worship pastors and worship leaders across Canada to write songs.

• Royal Anthems Songs Camp Produces 16 New Songs: At the first camp, worship leaders from 10 provinces were represented. Although most of them had never written songs before, by the end of the camp they had written 16 new songs!
• "Sing a new song to the LORD! Let the whole earth sing to the LORD!" Psalm 96:1. There are spiritual things happening and we're joining in. It's a call to the Canadian Church to join in on what is already happening with new songs.
• Why Doesn't the Canadian Church Sing Canadian Songs? Because we as the Canadian church haven't been creating songs. The Royal Anthems project is building the infrastructure to enable Canadian worship pastors and leaders to write songs.
• Scripture is a Songwriting Guidebook: Aligning song lyrics with the Words of Scripture enables worship leaders to ensure that the words they are putting into the mouths of believers is the Truth.
• Why Start Sunday Worship with Praise Music? A soft, fertile heart is more likely to grab onto the lessons He wants to teach us. And music for some reason does that.

Read the transcript: biblesociety.ca/transcript-scripture-untangled-s11-ep1

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Joel Augé is the Chief Growth Officer at Crossroads and loves to create media that has both social and spiritual impact. He is the author of numerous patents, most recently in the blockchain space. A creative and innovative serial entrepreneur, when others zig, Joel likes to zag. Before joining Crossroads, Joel founded FAN.SI, a company focused on solving one of the biggest problems in the music industry: regular income for artists.

A co-founder and CEO of HitGrab, RealmSmith, and Mythroll Armory, he has years of experience conceiving and developing new businesses. If that were not enough, Joel is also a talented artist and singer-songwriter who has appeared on Crossroads, YES TV, and other media platforms.

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Listen to Stacey Palmer, President and CEO of Prison Fellowship Canada, being interviewed by veteran journalist Lorna Dueck. Stacey has been involved in the leadership of the ministry since 2009 involving federal, provincial and youth corrections. Her belief in an accountable and restorative response to crime is reflected by her work, which includes pastoral care and counselling, mentoring, and facilitating restorative circles. In this episode, Stacey talks about the value that God places on humanity, and how He cares about upholding dignity and His image in every human being.

Read the transcript: biblesociety.ca/transcript-scripture-untangled-s10-ep15

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Stacey Palmer serves as the President & Chief Executive Officer of Prison Fellowship Canada (PFC), an organization that prepares and mobilizes the Canadian Christian community in response to the issue of crime and the restoration of offenders. She has been involved in the leadership of the organization since 2009 and her unique ability has brought PFC’s vision, growth, and stewardship into a regionalized and national community.

Academically, Stacey holds a Master’s degree in Missional Leadership. She is currently a candidate for a doctoral degree in Restorative Justice through Acadia University in Nova Scotia. Stacey has over 16 years of volunteered experiences in both the federal and provincial corrections in Canada, which includes pastoral counselling, mentoring and facilitating restorative circles with offenders and surrogate victims demonstrating that she believes in an accountable and restorative response to crime.

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Listen to the Rev. Victor S.J. Kim, Principal Clerk of the General Assembly of The Presbyterian Church in Canada (PCC) being interviewed by Rev. Dr. Andrew Stirling. Victor is responsible for matters related to governance, polity and administration and also serves as Ecumenical Officer for the denomination. He also serves as secretary to the Assembly Council of the PCC, a body whose witness includes a focus on a prophetic voice for the church. In this episode, Victor discusses the challenges facing today's church in Canada and encourages us to refocus on the ministry of Jesus Christ as the central aspect of the church’s role in today’s world.

Read the transcript: biblesociety.ca/transcript-scripture-untangled-s10-ep14

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The Rev. Victor S.J. Kim is the Principal Clerk of the General Assembly of The Presbyterian Church in Canada (PCC). Having been appointed to that position in July of 2022, Victor is responsible for matters related to governance, polity and administration for the PCC and acts as the Ecumenical Officer for the denomination. He also serves as secretary to the Assembly Council of the PCC, a body whose witness includes a focus on a prophetic voice for the church.

Prior to his appointment as Principal Clerk, Victor served as minister at Richmond Presbyterian Church, B.C. for 6 ½ years. He was a member of the Board of Vancouver School of Theology and previously, the Board of St. Andrew’s Hall. Before Richmond, Victor served as minister of Grace Presbyterian Church, Calgary for 22 ½ years, 16 years as lead minister.  Throughout Victor’s ministry he has been active in the local community, with interfaith organizations as well as ecumenical coalitions working for justice and dignity for all people. Victor serves on the Governing Board of the Canadian Council of Churches and is active in both regional and global gatherings of different Christian communions.  

Born in South Korea, Victor immigrated to Canada with his family at the age of seven. He is married to Sophie, and they have two adult children.  Victor has a degree in Political Science from the University of Calgary and completed his Master of Divinity at Knox College, Toronto.  

Between his second and third year at Knox College, Victor spent a year in Korea, partly on an internship at Young Nak Presbyterian Church in Seoul, at the time the largest Presbyterian congregation in the world with 50,000 members. Among other things, the congregation had missionaries in over 160 countries, their own bank vault and an internal dating service. Victor wishes to clarify that contrary to any rumours, he did not meet his wife to be through the church’s dating service!

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