When things don't go the way they're supposed to — viruses, star systems, presidents, even fish — we're often desperate to explain the chaos. In this episode, we search for order in the universe.

Original Air Date: August 08, 2020

Guests:

<a href="https://www.ttbook.org/people/patrik-svensson" target="_blank">Patrik Svensson</a> — <a href="https://www.ttbook.org/people/lulu-miller" target="_blank">Lulu Miller</a> — <a href="https://www.ttbook.org/people/alexander-boxer" target="_blank">Alexander Boxer</a> — <a href="https://www.ttbook.org/people/margaret-wertheim" target="_blank">Margaret Wertheim</a> — <a href="https://www.ttbook.org/people/s-james-gates-jr" target="_blank">S. James Gates Jr.</a>

Interviews In This Hour:

<a href="https://www.ttbook.org/interview/weird-world-eels" target="_blank">The Weird World Of Eels</a> — <a href="https://www.ttbook.org/interview/we-call-them-fish-evolution-says-theyre-something-else" target="_blank">We Call Them Fish. Evolution Says They're Something Else.</a> — <a href="https://www.ttbook.org/interview/original-algorithm-was-written-stars" target="_blank">The Original Algorithm Was Written In The Stars</a> — <a href="https://www.ttbook.org/interview/seeing-world-mathematicians-eyes" target="_blank">Seeing The World With A Mathematician's Eyes</a>

Further Reading:

<a href="http://nautil.us/issue/88/love--sex/eels-dont-have-sex-until-the-last-year-of-their-life" target="_blank">Nautilus: Eels Don’t Have Sex Until the Last Year of Their Life</a>—<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2YvRWZCmo0&feature=emb_title" target="_blank">NYAS: The Mystery of Our Mathematical Universe</a>

When things don't go the way they're supposed to — viruses, star systems, presidents, even fish — we're often desperate to explain the chaos. In this episode, we search for order in the universe. Original Air Date: August 08, 2020 Guests: Patrik Svensson — Lulu Miller — Alexander Boxer — Margaret Wertheim — S. James Gates Jr. Interviews In This Hour: The Weird World Of Eels — We Call Them Fish. Evolution Says They're Something Else. — The Original Algorithm Was Written In The Stars — Seeing The World With A Mathematician's Eyes Further Reading: Nautilus: Eels Don’t Have Sex Until the Last Year of Their Life—NYAS: The Mystery of Our Mathematical Universe

When things don't go the way they're supposed to — viruses, star systems, presidents, even fish — we're often desperate to explain the chaos. In this episode, we search for order in the universe.

Original Air Date:&nbsp;August 08, 2020

Guests:

<a href="https://www.ttbook.org/people/patrik-svensson" rel="noopener noreferrer">Patrik Svensson</a>&nbsp;—&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ttbook.org/people/lulu-miller" rel="noopener noreferrer">Lulu Miller</a>&nbsp;—&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ttbook.org/people/alexander-boxer" rel="noopener noreferrer">Alexander Boxer</a>&nbsp;—&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ttbook.org/people/margaret-wertheim" rel="noopener noreferrer">Margaret Wertheim</a>&nbsp;—&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ttbook.org/people/s-james-gates-jr" rel="noopener noreferrer">S. James Gates Jr.</a>

Interviews In This Hour:

<a href="https://www.ttbook.org/interview/weird-world-eels" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Weird World Of Eels</a>&nbsp;—&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ttbook.org/interview/we-call-them-fish-evolution-says-theyre-something-else" rel="noopener noreferrer">We Call Them Fish. Evolution Says They're Something Else.</a>&nbsp;—&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ttbook.org/interview/original-algorithm-was-written-stars" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Original Algorithm Was Written In The Stars</a>&nbsp;—&nbsp;<a href="https://www.ttbook.org/interview/seeing-world-mathematicians-eyes" rel="noopener noreferrer">Seeing The World With A Mathematician's Eyes</a>

Further Reading:

<a href="http://nautil.us/issue/88/love--sex/eels-dont-have-sex-until-the-last-year-of-their-life" rel="noopener noreferrer">Nautilus: Eels Don’t Have Sex Until the Last Year of Their Life</a>—<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2YvRWZCmo0&amp;feature=emb_title" rel="noopener noreferrer">NYAS: The Mystery of Our Mathematical Universe</a>

Searching for Order in the Universe

Wonder Cabinet is an independent podcast from Anne Strainchamps and Steve Paulson, Peabody Award-winning creators of public radio's To The Best Of Our Knowledge. For 35 years, that show brought long-form conversations to 200+ stations nationwide; its interviews are <a href="https://americanarchive.org/special_collections/ttbook">now archived in the Library of Congress</a>. Episodes feature intimate, long-form conversations with scientists, philosophers, writers, and artists who are re-imagining our relationship with the planet. Some study black holes or quantum entanglement; others map mycelial networks or count ancient tree rings. And some explore dream worlds, myths, and fairy tales to revive ways of knowing that challenge what we think we understand about the nature of reality. The name references Enlightenment-era cabinets of curiosities—private collections of shells, fossils, astronomical instruments, and saints' relics that existed at a moment when the scientific revolution was still in conversation with older ways of knowing the world. Today, another shift is taking place, as mechanistic models give way to more holistic, relational understandings of life on a sentient planet. Wonder Cabinet lives at that threshold. About the hostsAnne Strainchamps and Steve Paulson co-founded To The Best Of Our Knowledge. Steve hosts Luminous, a podcast about the science and philosophy of psychedelics, and is the author of <a href="https://global.oup.com/academic/product/atoms-and-eden-9780199743162?cc=us&amp;lang=en&amp;">Atoms and Eden</a>. Learn more at <a href="http://wondercabinetproductions.com">wondercabinetproductions.com</a>.

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Wonder Cabinet is an independent podcast from Anne Strainchamps and Steve Paulson, Peabody Award-winning creators of public radio's To The Best Of Our Knowledge. For 35 years, that show brought long-form conversations to 200+ stations nationwide; its interviews are now archived in the Library of Congress. Episodes feature intimate, long-form conversations with scientists, philosophers, writers, and artists who are re-imagining our relationship with the planet. Some study black holes or quantum entanglement; others map mycelial networks or count ancient tree rings. And some explore dream worlds, myths, and fairy tales to revive ways of knowing that challenge what we think we understand about the nature of reality. The name references Enlightenment-era cabinets of curiosities—private collections of shells, fossils, astronomical instruments, and saints' relics that existed at a moment when the scientific revolution was still in conversation with older ways of knowing the world. Today, another shift is taking place, as mechanistic models give way to more holistic, relational understandings of life on a sentient planet. Wonder Cabinet lives at that threshold. About the hosts Anne Strainchamps and Steve Paulson co-founded To The Best Of Our Knowledge. Steve hosts Luminous, a podcast about the science and philosophy of psychedelics, and is the author of Atoms and Eden. Learn more at wondercabinetproductions.com.

Wonder Cabinet is an independent podcast from Anne Strainchamps and Steve Paulson, Peabody Award-winning creators of public radio's To The Best Of Our Knowledge. For 35 years, that show brought long-form conversations to 200+ stations nationwide; its interviews are <a href="https://americanarchive.org/special_collections/ttbook" rel="noopener noreferrer">now archived in the Library of Congress</a>. Episodes feature intimate, long-form conversations with scientists, philosophers, writers, and artists who are re-imagining our relationship with the planet. Some study black holes or quantum entanglement; others map mycelial networks or count ancient tree rings. And some explore dream worlds, myths, and fairy tales to revive ways of knowing that challenge what we think we understand about the nature of reality. The name references Enlightenment-era cabinets of curiosities—private collections of shells, fossils, astronomical instruments, and saints' relics that existed at a moment when the scientific revolution was still in conversation with older ways of knowing the world. Today, another shift is taking place, as mechanistic models give way to more holistic, relational understandings of life on a sentient planet. Wonder Cabinet lives at that threshold. About the hostsAnne Strainchamps and Steve Paulson co-founded To The Best Of Our Knowledge. Steve hosts Luminous, a podcast about the science and philosophy of psychedelics, and is the author of <a href="https://global.oup.com/academic/product/atoms-and-eden-9780199743162?cc=us&amp;lang=en&amp;" rel="noopener noreferrer">Atoms and Eden</a>. Learn more at <a href="http://wondercabinetproductions.com" rel="noopener noreferrer">wondercabinetproductions.com</a>.

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