This episode begins a bit differently. Instead of starting with the biblical story (Moses) Steve dives in and turns the table on Ruth, asking her about her own calling and what it looks like right now. Steve and Ruth talk about the fatal question, and a great discussion proceeds out of understanding the difference between calling and vocation. Things heat up when Ruth and Steve discuss anger especially relevant in our current culture, and we end by looking at how to be in touch with our own limits as a leader.

Strengthening the Soul of Your Leadership (Chapter 5)