The third-part of Ruth's conversation with author Fr. Ronald Rolheiser is a thought provoking discussion of  the third stage of discipleship – giving our deaths away. How can we give something deep in our passivity like Jesus did in his passion? A fascinating dialogue about dying and the spiritual journey.  Ruth shares with us what her mother taught her in her death.

This conversation is drawn from his profound and thought-provoking book, Sacred Fire: A Vision for a Deeper Human and Christian Maturity. We pray these three episodes will serve you well as you begin your Lenten journey.

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